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Date: 01/14/2022 22:48:08
Team Payabang
III.7
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I'm also looking for something like this :D. TYIA BB_Justin

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Date: 01/14/2022 23:38:13
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Slaytanic
An important date is the % of teams per tactic used.
At the end, there are 3 defensive options never used = useless
I'd like to see a big change in patient, this is unrealistic and has been used in 90% of the matches with PG in C position

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et
From: Bro_Khen

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313248.21 in reply to 313248.20
Date: 01/15/2022 00:30:18
Team Payabang
III.7
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With the S56 News.... I think we'll need entire new sets of data to gather when the improvements to seldom used tactics became available for us to use... we might see some new METAs with those... can wait to try out some 4-Out 1-Inside style on Offense with a combination of Outside Box and 1.

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Date: 01/17/2022 09:25:04
White-Sharks
II.2
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White-Sharks II
Thanks for this, this helps a lot.

Could you maybe give a list for b3 games? maybe over the past 2-3 seasons for a bit more data?

From: Dodor

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313248.24 in reply to 313248.23
Date: 01/17/2022 10:06:24
Dodor Utd
A Grupa
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Dodor Inc
I would refrain from making any conclusions based on those tactics percentages. A lot of the times managers would use less popular tactics in games they know they won't win, just to throw a little mix in their offense/defence.

Additionally, managers would often not know how best to use each tactic, thus not adapting to particular requirements.

An easy way to fix this, is give more information to the public on how to make each tactic work. Making unknown updates to an unknown tactic will only make that tactic name a little more popular, but not the tactic itself.

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Date: 01/17/2022 13:24:50
Durham Wasps
II.2
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Sunderland Boilermakers
No improvement for fcp?

From: Tesse

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313248.26 in reply to 313248.15
Date: 01/17/2022 15:21:48
Cruesli
DBA Pro A
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Second Team:
The Milk
You need machine learning to help you figure out what's really happening

Are you going to help me get started on that?


Instead of going overboard, maybe a relatively simple* approach could already improve this analysis.

For example using a logistic regression with win vs lose as a binary outcome variable. Then as predictors you can use a few "baseline" predictors like win% in past 5 games, past 10 games, whether it's home vs away, % salary difference between teams, opponent teams win % in past 5 and 10 games. "After" this you can add chosen tactic as a predictor and see what remaining predictive power exists for each tactic and what their influence on win likelihood is.

90% of the work is getting the dataset together correctly. Runnnig the regression is a few lines of code.

Context: What this analysis does is try to take away the other factors that also relate to winning likelihood and try to isolate what effect remains of purely the chosen tactic.



* DS/ML folks please keep the simple part in mind before commenting what all wrong about this

Crunchy! If you eat fast enough
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313248.27 in reply to 313248.26
Date: 01/17/2022 15:36:02
Wasted Potential
NBBA
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454454
Second Team:
Hazards to Society
Yes! This is what needs to be done. It would show more accurately which tactics are dominate at the moment as some tactics may have inflated winning percentages from being used by the better team in a match up more often.

However it wouldn't tell per say what tactics are most viable in the game engine as tactics could perform poorly due to us managers not knowing how to form the right team to run them. This would probably need to be done through simulations of different team types to see what offenses just don't work under any conditions.

From: Rasho
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313248.28 in reply to 313248.11
Date: 01/18/2022 14:32:29
JAZINE
Prva Liga BiH
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-JAZINE-
Is this how we improved base offense ??????? (118526098)

Why are you guys lying us ? What did you improve ? Nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even I had bigger ent.

Last edited by Rasho at 01/18/2022 14:34:05

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