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I haven't looked through the rest of the teams yet, but with Faster Pussycats tournament win they have earned the ranking of #2 in England! So again, congratulations to elboss!

Updated rankings! Instead of keeping track of what titles each team has won I'm going to just list the number of what I'll call "Major Titles". Those would be an EBBL or National Tournament championship.

Current ranking - Old Ranking - Team (Current Ranking) [Major titles]
1 - 1 SwindonBulls (EBBL Big 8, 1st) [3]
2 - 2 Da Bombs (EBBL Big 8, 2nd) [3]
3 - 3 Faster Pussycats (EBBL Great 8, 2nd) [3]
4 - 4 Hackney Marshes (EBBL Great 8, 1st) [1]
5 - 9 bc ergelis (EBBL Big 8, 4th)
6 - 5 Fat Lever Leechers (EBBL Big 8, 7th)
7 - 7 Los Mikitos (EBBL Big 8, 5th)
8 - 12 Talon Tomahawks (EBBL Big 8, 3rd)
9 - 6 Alperton BC (EBBL Great 8, 4th)
10 - 13 BoloTowers (EBBL Great 8, 5th)
11 - 15 Tatatallfella (EBBL Big 8, 6th)
12 - 14 Gauson (II.1 Big 8, 1st)
13 - 17 London Sonics (EBBL Great 8, 3rd)
14 - 11 Can't Dunk for Toffee (EBBL Great 8, 6th)
15 - 22 Moomins (EBBL Great 8, 7th)
16 - 16 Vitamin Power (II.4 Great 8, 1st)
17 - 18 Wigston Werewolves (II.2 Great 8, 1st)
18 - NR Idle View Eagles (II.1 Great 8, 2nd) - Formerly Retto Five
19 - 20 freakstream (II.2 Great 8, 2nd)
20 - 21 Pinoy Ballers Inc (II.1 Big 8, 2nd)
21 - 19 Conclave Clusters (II.3 Big 8, 1st)
22 - 25 The Jaxx's (EBBL Great 8, 8th)
23 - NR Ocean Colour (II.1 Great 8, 1st)
24 - NR Whetstone Wizards (EBBL Big 8, 8th)
25 - 24 Granton Giants (II.3 Great 8, 2nd)

OUT: RTM Stars (formerly 8th, now bot)
Spartak MSK (formerly 10th, now bot)
Northern Allstars (formerly 23rd)

18th baby!

Nice work again Dab, I know this takes a while to do.

Good to see 4 teams from II.1 in there!

good effort. But they're still flawed rankings. My lot are 5th or 6th, possibly 4th, when we're trying.

I can understand you feel your squad is ranked lower than they deserve.. I'm sure several teams feel that way.

Remember though that the rankings aren't necessarily stating that one team is better than another on the court. They're an indication of how teams have placed in the league structure and the tournament. Your squad may be able to beat the teams ahead of you, but the teams ranked higher have finished higher at the end of the season. Saying you're team should be ranked in the top 4 I cannot agree with I'm sorry to say.

The top 4 teams are the clubs that have won the EBBL and national tournament titles. All 4 have finished in the top 3 of their EBBL division for each of the last several seasons, an accomplishment your squad has yet to achieve more than once. The top 4 teams have regularly finished ahead of you in the national tournament as well.

This is not meant to belittle your squad, I for one hate seeing Tatatallfella on my schedule twice a season. It's just a statement that while your team may be able to beat many of the teams ahead of you, even regularly, those teams have had better finishes in the competitions that matter for these rankings (league and tournament). Possibly it comes down to your statement of "when we're trying", I'm not sure.. maybe the squads ahead of you have simply tried harder to finish higher and the rankings reflect that?

I'm still trying to understand exactly how the rankings come about so if you have a difference of opinion on this, maybe you could shed some light on it?


Last edited by dabomby at 1/20/2010 6:25:23 PM

I think the playoffs get a lot of weight. The season my lot finished 5th in the division, we were ranked 8 before the playoffs and 13 afterwards, it was when the rankings were first published.

4th is a thought more than a claim, you're probably right. We're certainly not good enough to mess around with the line up as much as I've been doing this season, as I got my trainees slightly out of sync.

I still think my lot are the 5th best team in the EBBL but I don't have a serious problem with the rankings, below 3 it's all pretty tight, with 4 probably being rightly a notch higher than the rest.

Anyway, as I always said, I'll try and win it in Season 13, so we'll see how I do.

I agree that making the playoffs are likely one of the main factors for ranking. I believe that the 8 teams who make the playoffs all get the same credit and league finish is secondary, even among those squads. The teams that make the finals get another boost, and the champion gets yet another boost over that. I could be mistaken but thats the feeling I've gotten.

As far as your squad being the 5th best team thats very hard to say, but you're definitely in the mix of teams vying for that in my opinion. Unfortunately the rankings can only be based on results rather than club strength, which varies quickly with training, acquisitions, and game shape.

As for you shooting for the title in season 13, I personally love it when people set high goals (as they should!) because it brings the level of competition up. Higher levels of competition = more fun!! Just so long as you understand I aim to do my best to stop you! That said, best of luck!

Consistency shows up in the rankings and it's rewarded.

I can say with honesty that my team can beat any other one in the EBBL. In fact the did just that over the seasons. The problem is that having a consistent season is incredibly hard. You play a lot with the enthusiasm and when you play away it really hurts.

Swindon, Da Bombs and the Mashers are extremely consistent. I'd say I'm not at that level of consistency, but somehow I managed to climb up in the rankings... In case I'd say I should be 5th!

Hmm, bit of a cup run and suddenly we're 8th and back in the top 800 globally. Pity we've got Swindon away next week :-O

Hmm, bit of a cup run and suddenly we're 8th and back in the top 800 globally. Pity we've got Swindon away next week :-O

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Not giving you ideas, but weren't you claiming you could beat anyone :) This is the right match to make your point :)

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Actually, I think I told you recently I couldn't beat Swindon. You'll forgive me if I don't publish the analysis why, I'm sure. I'm planning my scrimmage training minutes already...

I can beat anyone else :-P

EDIT: Oops, no that was dabomby I told. And, actually, it was you saying you could beat anyone, just look back on this thread :-P


Last edited by Elmacca at 1/29/2010 6:21:11 PM