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Then, there is one simple solution to all of these problems, which I think would satisfy all of us - do not allow bot teams to participate in Draft at all. No problem with potential flooding of the market with players drafted from bot teams.

Not putting drafted players from bot teams on the market would do the same.

And wouldn't give a great advantage to teams with lots of bots in their league during the draft.

Hang on, I'm clearly not understanding something... What is "the same" in this post? I assumed that Your problem with transferlisting bot team draftees is that they would flood transfer market. If bot teams do not participate in Draft, their players will not flood the market. I suggest You read my first post on this thread once again.

Yeah, and what's the problem? Giving managers the possibility to train decent players will always be a good thing. It can be frustrating to always invets on Draft and not getting anything, season after season, year after year...

Anyway, half of them will be poorly trained, so it doesn't matter. I can't see any bad side of it even you try to justify one.

Getting top of the draft does NOT guarrantee a good draft pick. Besides taking the money spent on scouting, there also has to be a good draftee in the entire league + if more than 1 manager tries to get #1 draft pick in a lower league it's not as simple as losing to human teams and getting #1 draft pick. Also, people tank anyways and make huge money while losing almost everything - at least someone will bebefit from that, instead of bot teams taking good draftees who are useless to them.

Only skim-read the topic, but I agree with Perpete.

* If more players hit the market, the value of players goes down. It is already cheap and easy to buy trainees thanks to the boosts to the draft (especially the large increase in skills of 19 year olds). When I started the advice was to buy trainees with 7 potential, these days everyone can afford 8-9 potential. The only reason to buy less is for training U21 players or maybe a very niche build that doesn't benefit from it.

* Yes, it is frustrating when a 10 potential player is drafted by a bot and is lost to the NT. But if all these players were released then it would reduce the value of everyone who drafted those type of players. In the past (and probably going forward), the club teams come ahead of the national teams.

* These days you are guaranteed at least one 5/5 player in the draft, and in most drafts I've seen (small sample) there are several. Plus a handful of others who are worth something. So yes, you are very likely to draft at least one good player with a high draft pick. Even if your league is full of bots, you are still likely to draft well. Bots pick randomly so you have an excellent chance of getting some of the players at the top of your list.

BB changes over the last years are always focused on the training (more facilities, extended years without skilldrops, luxury training tax, etc) and you say that flood the transfer list with young players is a bad thing? WOW

Excuse me to disagree, but there is no problem with that. There will be more players, yes. Value of those players will go down, yes (and? Everyteam will have more opportunities, bringing them to more equality and cutting down prices with develope players, so more team will have chances to create good teams = more competition).

I guess only the rich managers are against this suggestion, because this will bring more competitors to them in a few years. Anyone else who really likes the training part of this game (the fun part of the game tbf) will also have more opportunities.

I keep saying this could be a win-win situation.

It's literally my suggestion, I've never picked from lower then #14, behind a few bots is DIV but also behind mostly human teams...? No? If transferlisting is not as good as I thought then just banish bots from draft...? Even then draft requires money input to ensure a good pick and make use of the #1 pick, also deflation of draftee prices and - int the long run - players as a whole will just raise competetiveness since it will be easier to afford better players, no? What about managers who start tanking in Division I and drop all the way down to Division IV? Also, I don't know how the situation is in other countries, but in Poland the U21 coach always seems to be in need of good youngsters - better draft could get more people into training for U21.
Also, I'm starting to see a logical flaw - apparently, The big issue is that flooding market with draftees will cause mass deflation, making draft not worth it, but also people will tank in DIV 4 will take advantage od #1 draft pick and make easy money? Please explain this combo - managers will mąkę money off off not-worth-it draft? Am I missing something?

Last edited by Hubsoniusz at 8/19/2024 5:17:35 PM