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196118.13 in reply to 196118.12
Date: 9/10/2011 2:29:49 AM
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Yoda, you just saved me a few minutes of typing, those are my thoughts (and some experimenting) exactly. In ABBL I would probably never play 2-3 just because the teams have at least one good small who could get 40 if you play a 2-3 .... not worth the gamble in my opinion.

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196118.14 in reply to 196118.12
Date: 9/10/2011 3:20:09 AM
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What constitutes a decent enough guard then? Are we talking someone with jump shot, or passing, or both?

So essentially, don't use 2-3 unless the opponent's guards are total scrubs?

@ everyone: does anyone have experience with inside box-and-one? Does this work at all, or is it safer just to stick with man-to-man?

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196118.15 in reply to 196118.14
Date: 9/10/2011 3:21:18 AM
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I disagree that you need good passing to hurt a 2-3 - because if your guards have poor passing, they can't get the ball inside. And then they shoot from outside. Where there are no defenders... :/

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196118.16 in reply to 196118.15
Date: 9/10/2011 3:22:58 AM
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So it actually makes it worse?

I can see what you are getting at, although in reality poor passing should mean more turnovers, not less passes. :/

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196118.17 in reply to 196118.16
Date: 9/10/2011 3:24:39 AM
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Yep, pretty much. And I agree, that's what it should mean, but it doesn't.

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196118.18 in reply to 196118.14
Date: 9/10/2011 3:36:10 AM
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[link=http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/36367412/boxscore.aspx This game inside box and one was used against me

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196118.19 in reply to 196118.18
Date: 9/10/2011 3:50:24 AM
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I'm probably going to be the only person from higher leagues saying this, but I think 2-3 can be used effectively. In the right circumstances.

Note that in saying this, I haven't used 2-3 zone for a very long time, and probably wont for a while yet. I see it as a last resort tactic.

I actually think the main benefit with 2-3 zone is the rebounding boost. Despite it being a defensive tactic, I find one gets a large amount of offensive rebounding from it. If you have a high IS rating, you can get a lot of easy putbacks from it.

That said, you can get torched from the outside from it. One has to be confident that the team you are playing will play inside, and that your PG and SG have enough defense to be able to cover the opposition guard comfortably.

Its very much a desperation tactic though. LI and and an outside offense is just silly, but it can be effective occasionally with an inside offense.

For an example where 2-3 worked well, this game is a good example. http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/13043/boxscore.aspx

We were comfortably outclassed against China in this game, but the 2-3 zone rebounding advantage almost got us over the line.

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196118.20 in reply to 196118.19
Date: 9/10/2011 4:20:04 AM
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I completely agree with you.

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196118.21 in reply to 196118.1
Date: 9/10/2011 4:45:41 AM
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Never use 2-3 against DFBS, I heard it doesn't work on him.

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196118.22 in reply to 196118.19
Date: 9/10/2011 6:27:46 AM
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mllama I think you are more or less agreeing with what I said. It isn't a normal tactic but against very special teams (Smeltztroopers) it can be your best shot. I also said that the rebounding boost is nice, but I wish it didn't criple you so badly in your outside defence for so little gain on the inside defence.

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196118.23 in reply to 196118.22
Date: 9/10/2011 6:51:45 AM
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I think there is quite a large gain in ID. The problem is, alot of teh time the best way to defend against an inside tactic is to defend outside, to stop the supply inside (so much so, that a couple of times I went 3-2 zone when I was U21 coach against teams that I thought were gonna go inside).

It basically a tactic that's used when, the opposing team is much better than you, so you want to take a risk, and sometimes it can pay off (and sometime you just get pumped using it).

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