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196118.17 in reply to 196118.16
Date: 9/10/2011 3:24:39 AM
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Yep, pretty much. And I agree, that's what it should mean, but it doesn't.

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Date: 9/10/2011 3:36:10 AM
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[link=http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/36367412/boxscore.aspx This game inside box and one was used against me

From: mllama

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196118.19 in reply to 196118.18
Date: 9/10/2011 3:50:24 AM
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I'm probably going to be the only person from higher leagues saying this, but I think 2-3 can be used effectively. In the right circumstances.

Note that in saying this, I haven't used 2-3 zone for a very long time, and probably wont for a while yet. I see it as a last resort tactic.

I actually think the main benefit with 2-3 zone is the rebounding boost. Despite it being a defensive tactic, I find one gets a large amount of offensive rebounding from it. If you have a high IS rating, you can get a lot of easy putbacks from it.

That said, you can get torched from the outside from it. One has to be confident that the team you are playing will play inside, and that your PG and SG have enough defense to be able to cover the opposition guard comfortably.

Its very much a desperation tactic though. LI and and an outside offense is just silly, but it can be effective occasionally with an inside offense.

For an example where 2-3 worked well, this game is a good example. http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/13043/boxscore.aspx

We were comfortably outclassed against China in this game, but the 2-3 zone rebounding advantage almost got us over the line.

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196118.20 in reply to 196118.19
Date: 9/10/2011 4:20:04 AM
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I completely agree with you.

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196118.21 in reply to 196118.1
Date: 9/10/2011 4:45:41 AM
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Never use 2-3 against DFBS, I heard it doesn't work on him.

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196118.22 in reply to 196118.19
Date: 9/10/2011 6:27:46 AM
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mllama I think you are more or less agreeing with what I said. It isn't a normal tactic but against very special teams (Smeltztroopers) it can be your best shot. I also said that the rebounding boost is nice, but I wish it didn't criple you so badly in your outside defence for so little gain on the inside defence.

From: mllama

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196118.23 in reply to 196118.22
Date: 9/10/2011 6:51:45 AM
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I think there is quite a large gain in ID. The problem is, alot of teh time the best way to defend against an inside tactic is to defend outside, to stop the supply inside (so much so, that a couple of times I went 3-2 zone when I was U21 coach against teams that I thought were gonna go inside).

It basically a tactic that's used when, the opposing team is much better than you, so you want to take a risk, and sometimes it can pay off (and sometime you just get pumped using it).

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196118.24 in reply to 196118.22
Date: 9/10/2011 7:21:49 AM
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my team aint special no more ... please see the future of the 'troopers ... pretty soon smeltz will be playing 2nd fiddle to him
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/13239174/overview.aspx

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From: yodabig

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196118.25 in reply to 196118.23
Date: 9/10/2011 7:26:42 AM
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Well going back to last season when I did run it a couple of times.

Looking at PL so HCA doesn't matter and we use best lineups not training lineups that was where I used it against Smeltz (and got pumped)

2/3 vs SASTROOPERS
mediocre (high) Perimeter Defense
strong (high) Inside Defense

The week after man to man against Northcote.
strong (high) Perimeter Defense
strong (low) Inside Defense

So I went up 2/3 of a level in ID in exchange for losing three entire levels of OD.

As we said the rebounding was much better

respectable (high) Rebounding vs Smeltz.
average (medium) Rebounding vs Northcote.

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196118.26 in reply to 196118.25
Date: 9/10/2011 7:55:50 AM
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Sometimes, 2-3 is good against PTB and base offense aswell....

Last edited by datzilla at 9/10/2011 8:03:28 AM

Yo! Yo! D for D best PF in D Aussie BB. D Name is Kye Duffill (10080211), averages nothing but pure amazing! Vote for Duffman!
From: mllama

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196118.27 in reply to 196118.25
Date: 9/10/2011 8:25:36 AM
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Obviously I don't know your team, but you had a bit of a different make up in between the two games, against Smeltz Stibric played big minutes, and against Northcote Larbi played bigger minutes, perhaps that could be some reason for the difference? Maybe game shape played a role as well?

Its hard to say though, but I do think the rebounding is probably the biggest advantage. The extra 10-15 shots you can get from a 2-3 zone can be a big difference.

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