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From: Orgram

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313773.19 in reply to 313773.12
Date: 3/9/2022 7:33:29 PM
Orgram Dragon
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Normally when you train 18y players and you start 1vs1 you buy 6 players to train. If you change the training to OD or Passing you are loosing training on 3 players and you are loosing money too. Thats one of the reason I do not like much giving other trainings before 1vs1 is finished

From: Fulek49

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313773.20 in reply to 313773.19
Date: 3/11/2022 6:20:31 AM
Mûrs-Erigné
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Yes, you're right

From: Fulek49
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313773.21 in reply to 313773.20
Date: 3/11/2022 6:43:33 AM
Mûrs-Erigné
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Kensaku Ikarashi (50574287) | 1 on 1 SF/PF (48 minutes) | ↑popped↑ Handling
Masaru Haraguchi (50614616) | 1 on 1 SF/PF (48 minutes) | ↑popped↑ in Driving

I have corrected the playing times and all the Japanese players have completed their 48 minutes

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313773.22 in reply to 313773.19
Date: 3/11/2022 7:32:14 AM
Kitakyushu
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I disagree, there is a new way to train.
First, you train ID to 11. Then 1 on 1 Fs until they are 4 levels above OD and passing. Then you train OD and and passing for a pop.
I have never tried it but I will after seeing (49988983)

This is Koma, and I believe he will be the best player in Nippon history.

Jump Shot: proficient Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: prolific
Driving: sensational Passing: strong ↑
Inside Shot: proficient Inside Def.: prolific
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: inept Free Throw: strong

Experience: pitiful TSP: 88 (54 + 34)
I was skeptical with starting ID first, but not any more. 88 TSP at 19...WOW!!

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313773.23 in reply to 313773.22
Date: 3/13/2022 7:55:04 PM
Orgram Dragon
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Wow What a beast. What do you mean with train OD and passing for a pop? Changing training between OD and passing every pop? If you pop OD and Passing, 1vs1 F againt to get 4 levels above?

I am very interested in this method.

The only problem I see is when you do training like this, you can only train 3 players instead 6 from the begining.

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313773.24 in reply to 313773.22
Date: 3/15/2022 7:48:52 PM
Mûrs-Erigné
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Thank you for this, I didn't know this method too.

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313773.25 in reply to 313773.22
Date: 3/16/2022 7:27:19 AM
Mûrs-Erigné
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Jotaro Koma is a great prospect for Japan and will be an amazing player like Matsuyama can be currently.

So far, his manager is doing a very good job to make him progress, but first, and to properly evaluate this method, it seems important to me to specify the levels of its trainer, and of its young trainer ( I think he have one!), as well as the levels of its infrastructures like Gym Center and Training Court. It can make a big difference.

Then, it is also important to know that Koma, with his Hall of Fame potential, was drafted last season at 18 with a TSP of 65 (40+25), which is an already exceptional profile. I told you about him Yellow Cake at that time.

At the moment, I remain a little skeptical too, I think it might be a special case in very favorable conditions, but I may change my mind if more examples are added.

In any case, the undeniable advantage of this method is that the player is operational in defense more quickly.
On the contrary, in his defense, and as Orgram pointed out, it only allows 3 players to be trained from the start.


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313773.26 in reply to 313773.25
Date: 3/16/2022 7:43:36 AM
Kitakyushu
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Believe me, I thought he was crazy too. To train ID to prolific first, I didn't understand. But now I do. The 11 ID helps with OD and IS elastic effects.

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313773.27 in reply to 313773.26
Date: 3/16/2022 8:16:38 AM
Mûrs-Erigné
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Yes that's it, the beginning of his training is amazing but when it works it's all benefit like you said.
I still believe he enjoyed very favorable conditions!

When he arrived at 18, he had 6 IS - 6 ID - 7 RB - 6 BL, To jump up to 11 ID, he needed at least 12 weeks in optimal conditions with a very prolific first week in pops, but it could well have taken up to 16/17 weeks.

After reaching this level of ID, his training is more classic and above all very logical.
I think he was a Lucky guy!

From: Brutus
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313773.28 in reply to 313773.27
Date: 3/16/2022 5:58:46 PM
Brutus Buckeye
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I've gotten frustrated with my team. I think I'm going to sell off some parts and focus on training some players for a while. Let me know if there are any good Japanese prospects that come available.

Is there a good thread on the ins and outs of maximizing training? I saw YC's post above about training IS first but looking for more details and a full end to end strategy.

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313773.29 in reply to 313773.28
Date: 3/17/2022 6:22:34 AM
Kitakyushu
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Not IS, ID to 11 first.
Than 1 on1 Fs to get driving and handling to 11.

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