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233858.218 in reply to 233858.217
Date: 10/25/2013 4:58:53 PM
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I think you can keep doing what you're doing. After PA, I would train JS or 1v1. If you get bored, maybe you could try training JR or FT. Do you want him to be a PG or SG?

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233858.219 in reply to 233858.218
Date: 10/25/2013 9:18:05 PM
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really not sure, i guess maybe i should decide that before i switch to passing. I suppose if i'm going to make him a SG he should have just about enough passing. I feel like with the other players on my team passing would help the most now tho. 2 pops in passing should be good then i really have to make the choice, i was thinking JR what do you think about that?

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233858.220 in reply to 233858.219
Date: 10/26/2013 7:18:52 PM
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On average, JR (or Outside Shooting in the training display) takes about 2 weeks to pop. You would also have to play him at SG. I think a pop or two would help him.

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233858.221 in reply to 233858.220
Date: 11/4/2013 11:01:22 AM
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Hey everyone,

I happen to own two USA young players and I'm training them to be my leading SG and SF for the years to come, for my inside focused team.

I know they seem to be strange because I don't train JS/JR at all, because I want them to drive/pass and finish when close to the rim and not to take shots they gonna miss anyway due to the penalty in jumpers for the inside tactics. They're gonna be my special monsters. :)

Currently I'm training OD and PA for this and the 2 following seasons and then I'll train DR for big guys until they are capped.

Anyway here is my SG trainee:

Dan Lawler (29562332)
Power Forward
Weekly salary: $ 4 672
Role: regular starter
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DMI: 35400
Age: 19
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: strong

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: atrocious
Outside Def.: strong Handling: awful
Driving: respectable Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: strong Inside Def.: proficient
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: awful Free Throw: awful

My goal for him is to be like this:

10 1
19 15
19 12
13 11
5 4

And here is my future SF star:

Guo Guoqiang (28410449)
Center
Weekly salary: $ 16 633
Role: rotation player
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DMI: 201100
Age: 20
Height: 6'9" / 206 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: proficient

Jump Shot: mediocre Jump Range: atrocious
Outside Def.: proficient Handling: mediocre
Driving: respectable Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: prolific Inside Def.: sensational
Rebounding: prominent Shot Blocking: inept
Stamina: atrocious Free Throw: respectable

His ST is a problem, but his inside skills were great last year and his secondaries were great to start training.

I hope he'll be like this:

10 1
17 16
20 14
17 14
10 4

All future skills are based in Training Simulator.

Take care all!

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Date: 11/24/2013 12:32:30 AM
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Scoty Malcolm

Weekly salary: $ 3 417
Role: regular starter
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DMI: 58200
Age: 18
Height: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: proficient
Jump Shot: strong Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: strong ↑ Handling: average
Driving: strong Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: inept Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: average Free Throw: awful

Experience: pitiful

Hi everyone!
I want this player to make u21 nt if posibble. Which skills do I need to improve first and which trainings should I give ?
Thanks for answers !

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233858.223 in reply to 233858.2
Date: 11/25/2013 9:31:18 PM
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So I dont know how the depth as big men are for the U21 national team is but I believe this guy could help it out. Feedback about how to improve his training thank you!

Rafael Villegas (29559345) Center

Weekly salary: $ 7 738
Role: regular starter
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DMI: 41200
Age: 19
Height: 7'2" / 218 cm
Potential: MVP
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: average
Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: awful
Handling: mediocre
Driving: atrocious
Passing: atrocious
Inside Shot: wondrous ↑
Inside Def.: strong ↑
Rebounding: strong
Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: atrocious
Free Throw: pitiful

Experience: pitiful

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233858.224 in reply to 233858.222
Date: 11/25/2013 11:24:09 PM
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First, I would get his OD to 9 or 10. Next I would train PA to 8. After that, train JS/1v1 to improve his JS and HA. After those skills pop to about 9, I would go back to training OD until he gets to 11. Just remember, when in doubt, train OD.

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233858.225 in reply to 233858.223
Date: 11/25/2013 11:53:29 PM
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From now until he is 21, when you train his inside skills, you only have ID and REB. Since his IS is already at the level of a typical U21 big, he doesn't need to be trained in it at the moment.

If you have time to squeeze it in, I would also train 1v1 and PA to raise his HA and DR. The best way to train PA is by playing him 48 minutes at PG. PA trains fast on everyone, so he should pop quickly. I recommend training it until he hits inept.

For 1v1, you could get him 48 minutes at PG, SG, or both of them combined. I also advise you to do 1v1 Guards instead of Forwards. The reason why is that 1v1 Forwards trains IS a bit, and if his sublevels are high enough, he might pop in IS. Couple that with you training his ID/REB and that pop might make him a lot more expensive.

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233858.226 in reply to 233858.225
Date: 12/8/2013 11:31:43 AM
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Hello, everyone. We're new to this game, so please be patient with stupid questions, okay? We're trying to learn it.

From reading various threads, it appears that at higher divisions, training is a big thing. Training hot shot players seems to get everybody in a froth. So far to us, though, (in Div. V) it makes no sense. We see that you can't train more than a few players at a time except in three team attributes. The others appear to sit idle.

Is there a training thread anywhere that starts from square one, helping new coaches like us, and doesn't simply talk about U21 and future hall of famers, etc? We take it on faith that training is worthwhile and interesting because it appears that way to so many people, but we would like to learn enough about it to find it worthwhile and interesting ourselves. Thanks!

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233858.227 in reply to 233858.226
Date: 12/8/2013 2:04:29 PM
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Training can definitely be effective in lower levels, even when your goal is a more modestly skill player rather than a killer U21/NT type. I trained a 19 yo allstar potential guy (Greg Lloyd) and got lucky with a 18 yo perennial allstar guy. There are other teams who have trained multiple star potential guys. So, it's definitely doable.

For all sorts of information about training, I'd recommend joining the USA offsite, where we have forums covering training all players. Then, you can send your training information to the crowdsourcing analysis, which gives hard details about the things that control training.

usa offsite forum is at http://s3.zetaboards.com/BuzzerBeater_USA_NT/index/
register there, then send a BB mail to sleet (28628) or magiker (30267) and tell then what email you used to register. Then they can activate your offsite forum account.

Information about the crowsourcing training analysis can be found here: (203921.1)
Also, you can use the training planner spreadsheet that rhyminsimon made, which incorporates data from the crowdsourcing project. You can predict how fast it will take to train players to certain skill levels. Link to training planner is here (100218.2)]

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233858.228 in reply to 233858.226
Date: 12/9/2013 5:24:55 PM
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Like Tangosz said, you don't need to have a high potential guy to make train up a good player. I have trained star and allstar potential players on several occasions who have turned into a profit.

However, star potential is the lowest that I recommend training. I tried training a starter potential back in my D5 days, and he didn't last too long :)

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