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233858.226 in reply to 233858.225
Date: 12/8/2013 11:31:43 AM
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Hello, everyone. We're new to this game, so please be patient with stupid questions, okay? We're trying to learn it.

From reading various threads, it appears that at higher divisions, training is a big thing. Training hot shot players seems to get everybody in a froth. So far to us, though, (in Div. V) it makes no sense. We see that you can't train more than a few players at a time except in three team attributes. The others appear to sit idle.

Is there a training thread anywhere that starts from square one, helping new coaches like us, and doesn't simply talk about U21 and future hall of famers, etc? We take it on faith that training is worthwhile and interesting because it appears that way to so many people, but we would like to learn enough about it to find it worthwhile and interesting ourselves. Thanks!

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Date: 12/8/2013 2:04:29 PM
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Training can definitely be effective in lower levels, even when your goal is a more modestly skill player rather than a killer U21/NT type. I trained a 19 yo allstar potential guy (Greg Lloyd) and got lucky with a 18 yo perennial allstar guy. There are other teams who have trained multiple star potential guys. So, it's definitely doable.

For all sorts of information about training, I'd recommend joining the USA offsite, where we have forums covering training all players. Then, you can send your training information to the crowdsourcing analysis, which gives hard details about the things that control training.

usa offsite forum is at http://s3.zetaboards.com/BuzzerBeater_USA_NT/index/
register there, then send a BB mail to sleet (28628) or magiker (30267) and tell then what email you used to register. Then they can activate your offsite forum account.

Information about the crowsourcing training analysis can be found here: (203921.1)
Also, you can use the training planner spreadsheet that rhyminsimon made, which incorporates data from the crowdsourcing project. You can predict how fast it will take to train players to certain skill levels. Link to training planner is here (100218.2)]

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Date: 12/9/2013 5:24:55 PM
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Like Tangosz said, you don't need to have a high potential guy to make train up a good player. I have trained star and allstar potential players on several occasions who have turned into a profit.

However, star potential is the lowest that I recommend training. I tried training a starter potential back in my D5 days, and he didn't last too long :)

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Date: 1/3/2014 6:51:46 AM
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Hey everyone !

I asked you how to train a player 3 seasons ago. Here he was:

Age:18
Jump Shot: awful Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: average Handling: average
Driving: average Passing: atrocious
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: awful

And here he is now:

Weekly salary: $ 8 376
Age: 21
Height: 6'8" / 203 cm
Potential: hall of famer

Jump Shot: proficient Jump Range: average
Outside Def.: strong Handling: sensational
Driving: tremendous Passing: average ↑
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: awful Free Throw: inept

I wasted a few training sessions, because of injuries and also because I had to train stamina, which was very low.
What should I train in priority now ?

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233858.230 in reply to 233858.229
Date: 1/3/2014 8:32:34 AM
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Okay. Seeing he is going to be a SF, I would say to train OD/ID as a priority. That's just me, though. Good luck!




EDIT: Adjusting to the comment below.

Last edited by Jimbobjoe at 1/3/2014 8:48:29 AM

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Date: 1/3/2014 8:44:55 AM
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Actually, he's more likely to be a SF (or possibly a PF).

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Date: 1/3/2014 6:34:53 PM
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I really like the idea of making him a PF. if you just focus on the big skills for this season and some of next season, he can be a pretty kick ass PF. Nice job with him!

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Date: 1/4/2014 5:42:35 PM
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I would train his big skills for this season and next, like E.B.W. said. If you have time at the end of the season, playoffs, or a 2-game week, I recommend training JS, REB or PA. I would also put a bit of emphasis on OD/ID.

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Date: 1/5/2014 2:12:49 PM
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Drafted this guy last season. Thoughts?

Clair Shipman (30647307) Power Forward

Weekly salary: $ 5 565
Role: regular starter
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DMI: 29600
Age: 19
Height: 6'8" / 203 cm
Potential: star
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: strong ↑ Jump Range: pitiful
Outside Def.: inept Handling: proficient ↑
Driving: proficient Passing: inept
Inside Shot: strong Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: strong Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: awful

Experience: atrocious

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233858.235 in reply to 233858.233
Date: 1/5/2014 5:04:56 PM
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Thanks for the advices guys !

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Date: 1/5/2014 7:20:57 PM
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Owner: Palmela Force

Weekly salary: $ 3 074
Role: draws a paycheck
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DMI: 6500
Age: 18
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: hall of famer
Game Shape: mediocre

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: respectable
Driving: average Passing: inept
Inside Shot: pitiful Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: awful Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: inept Free Throw: awful

Experience: atrocious

I've been in conversations with a Scout of his NT, but i would like to have a few more advices to my player.

What can i do for the USA NT with this kid??

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