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265510.309 in reply to 265510.308
Date: 5/6/2017 11:20:08 PM
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Agreed, he looks like a stud! Want to give him 2 more in RB, 1 more in ID, and then sell him to me? :D

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265510.310 in reply to 265510.309
Date: 5/6/2017 11:37:59 PM
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He does have a shot, but as you say he would be out of position at the C spot (where Beauchemin/Cockayne and Sutter are better choices against 200k bigs), and at the PF spot Burimenko and Pietchmann are superior. With Burimenko retiring in 2-3 seasons he certainly has a chance for the PF spot and backup SF when we need inside depth.
Great training BTW, +5 ISP and +5 OSP in 2 seasons 1/2, quite impressive at his age

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265510.311 in reply to 265510.310
Date: 5/6/2017 11:46:27 PM
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Naismith
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I am really not hot on Beauchemin at all. His OD and PA disqualify him to play at high level imho. Think it's bigger liability than Avila's ID/SB.
The only dealbreaker for me with Avila is RB, but if that gets up to 17 (and ID to 17-18), I think he would be vastly superior to Beauchemin

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265510.312 in reply to 265510.311
Date: 5/6/2017 11:58:28 PM
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For the starter spot I agree completely, the few times he had the starting C spot was because his GS was 2 level higher than Cockayne/Sutter. but as a backup to play 10min and grab rebounds and defend he's quite effective, especially when we have players around him that can score. What is appealing with him is his "atypic" profile, compared to Avila that has a more "logical" skillset.
With Burimenko at the PF spot we already have the best big in Canada, that can score and defend, we don't need a second one with similar skills at the C spot, against C with monstruous RB and defense, we need one that can take rebounds and defend against these 200k bigs, 17 Rb and ID is a bit short for that when the opponent has 19-20 IS/ID/Rb.
Obviously I would prefer to have 2 Burimenko on the team, but that's not the case. Avila will be the starting PF of the NT in 2-3 seasons, and he'll need to have players like Cockayne and Beauchemin at his side to be the offensive leader of the team

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265510.313 in reply to 265510.312
Date: 5/7/2017 12:09:43 AM
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I think you are underestimating the strength of OD on big men. 14 OD +17ID (ideally 18) would defend much better than 2+19, and I don't think it's even close. I do agree with rebounding though. Think 17 is sufficient to hold his own, but anything below that is liability

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265510.314 in reply to 265510.313
Date: 5/7/2017 1:29:41 AM
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Yeah it depends a lot on the opponent. From what I saw in "average" countries - ie countries like ours with maybe 3-4-5 really great players and a bunch a really good ones, it's unusual to have 2 dominant bigs with well rounded secondaries. Usually you have one really great player and you play him at PF, and one more mono-skilled player playing C. Against such players with poor secondaries I think it's better to have 19 ID than 17IDs and lots of OD, especially when you have 19-20Rb or 19-20IS.

Top teams are another story but we're not there yet (anymore!). Against them you need both great defense (inside and out), and great Rb/IS as well. Blocking also helps at the end of close games.

Anyway I'm not saying I don't want Avila on the team, I do, but at the start of the season he was a bit behind others (namely Burimenko and Pietchmann for PF, and Madiar/Russel-Jones/Bevan for SF), and I believe players with awful secondaries but excellent primaries do have a spot on the team for specific roles. Playing only with well rounded player that cannot dominate any position is not the ultimate solution in my mind, we need a mix of both

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265510.315 in reply to 265510.314
Date: 5/7/2017 10:55:45 PM
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Naismith
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We have a slightly different approach. Beauchemin is a way to try and limit opponent's advantage, while making 100% sure you will not have advantage at all at C position, in any way. Plus, you will limit your own offense (not just on C, across the board because of lack of passing). Also, you are screwed if opponent has more than 6-7 in JS and JR.
I am more of a risk taker. If you feel like your opponent is going to attack the basket and have all their offense go through bigs, play 2-3, which Avila (with slightly better RB) would be pretty much perfect for.
Also, if you are a team like Canada that doesnt have the best roster, you look for mismatches. That's why players like Burimenko and Avila are extremely valuable to the team. Passing on the big man is one of the most important skills imho, because it helps the flow immensely and results in better offense for our guards (which are pretty skilled).
Beauchemin is a safe play- making sure we stay where we are - average.
Players like Avila can put us close to making 2nd round in World's.
Introduction of GDP made sure that risk-taking is now rewarded more often in the game.

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265510.316 in reply to 265510.315
Date: 5/7/2017 11:59:55 PM
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That's why we have players like Cockayne, pietchmann, or Robbie Robinson on the team. You focus on the Avila vs Beauchemin thing when I'm telling you Beauchemin is a way to have another option on the team.
If you want right now Avila is like Robbie Robinson, with 3-4 skills less across the board. That means he would only shadow him and will always be the second choice after him, and Robinson is already just a backup behind Cockayne et al. Beauchemin brings other options against weaker competition, Right now Avila does not bring something to the team we don't have. He will, just not right now. i don't think it is playing more safe to explore other options than the obvious ones. Avila is not a mismatch against any strong team. Beauchemin is.
I know the importance of passing for bigs or any other player on the team, what do you think is the single thing I ask anyone training a player for the NT? Focus on Pa, focus on Pa, don't forget Pa.
Right now we're nowhere near making 2nd round at worlds, making it to the worlds would be an accomplishement, and believe me I'm doing everything I can and think as much outside of the box as I can

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265510.317 in reply to 265510.316
Date: 5/8/2017 1:47:24 AM
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Naismith
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I agree that you are doing a great job.
The only argument I am making is in a statement that 19ID and 20RB that Beauchemin has makes him a better player than Avila once he gets to 17 in RB. I don't believe that is the case under any circumstances, using any tactic. What's great about BB though is how many options are available! I might be completely off with this assessment, but just wanted to throw in my 2 cents.

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265510.318 in reply to 265510.317
Date: 5/8/2017 9:13:19 AM
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Oh yeah I was talking with Avila skills as of now, with 17Rb there's no question he is better in every way

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265510.319 in reply to 265510.318
Date: 5/10/2017 10:27:02 PM
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Maurice Mallaghan (35217643) will go on the TL next Monday. His salary is under 80k so no risk of losing him.
Still young (27) and a great potential (hall of famer), he wasn't trained last season but was a decent player, last time I checked only his JR was low.
So if someone is willing to keep training him, keep some cash on hand until next week ;)

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