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265510.314 in reply to 265510.313
Date: 5/7/2017 1:29:41 AM
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Yeah it depends a lot on the opponent. From what I saw in "average" countries - ie countries like ours with maybe 3-4-5 really great players and a bunch a really good ones, it's unusual to have 2 dominant bigs with well rounded secondaries. Usually you have one really great player and you play him at PF, and one more mono-skilled player playing C. Against such players with poor secondaries I think it's better to have 19 ID than 17IDs and lots of OD, especially when you have 19-20Rb or 19-20IS.

Top teams are another story but we're not there yet (anymore!). Against them you need both great defense (inside and out), and great Rb/IS as well. Blocking also helps at the end of close games.

Anyway I'm not saying I don't want Avila on the team, I do, but at the start of the season he was a bit behind others (namely Burimenko and Pietchmann for PF, and Madiar/Russel-Jones/Bevan for SF), and I believe players with awful secondaries but excellent primaries do have a spot on the team for specific roles. Playing only with well rounded player that cannot dominate any position is not the ultimate solution in my mind, we need a mix of both

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265510.315 in reply to 265510.314
Date: 5/7/2017 10:55:45 PM
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We have a slightly different approach. Beauchemin is a way to try and limit opponent's advantage, while making 100% sure you will not have advantage at all at C position, in any way. Plus, you will limit your own offense (not just on C, across the board because of lack of passing). Also, you are screwed if opponent has more than 6-7 in JS and JR.
I am more of a risk taker. If you feel like your opponent is going to attack the basket and have all their offense go through bigs, play 2-3, which Avila (with slightly better RB) would be pretty much perfect for.
Also, if you are a team like Canada that doesnt have the best roster, you look for mismatches. That's why players like Burimenko and Avila are extremely valuable to the team. Passing on the big man is one of the most important skills imho, because it helps the flow immensely and results in better offense for our guards (which are pretty skilled).
Beauchemin is a safe play- making sure we stay where we are - average.
Players like Avila can put us close to making 2nd round in World's.
Introduction of GDP made sure that risk-taking is now rewarded more often in the game.

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265510.316 in reply to 265510.315
Date: 5/7/2017 11:59:55 PM
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That's why we have players like Cockayne, pietchmann, or Robbie Robinson on the team. You focus on the Avila vs Beauchemin thing when I'm telling you Beauchemin is a way to have another option on the team.
If you want right now Avila is like Robbie Robinson, with 3-4 skills less across the board. That means he would only shadow him and will always be the second choice after him, and Robinson is already just a backup behind Cockayne et al. Beauchemin brings other options against weaker competition, Right now Avila does not bring something to the team we don't have. He will, just not right now. i don't think it is playing more safe to explore other options than the obvious ones. Avila is not a mismatch against any strong team. Beauchemin is.
I know the importance of passing for bigs or any other player on the team, what do you think is the single thing I ask anyone training a player for the NT? Focus on Pa, focus on Pa, don't forget Pa.
Right now we're nowhere near making 2nd round at worlds, making it to the worlds would be an accomplishement, and believe me I'm doing everything I can and think as much outside of the box as I can

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265510.317 in reply to 265510.316
Date: 5/8/2017 1:47:24 AM
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I agree that you are doing a great job.
The only argument I am making is in a statement that 19ID and 20RB that Beauchemin has makes him a better player than Avila once he gets to 17 in RB. I don't believe that is the case under any circumstances, using any tactic. What's great about BB though is how many options are available! I might be completely off with this assessment, but just wanted to throw in my 2 cents.

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265510.318 in reply to 265510.317
Date: 5/8/2017 9:13:19 AM
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Oh yeah I was talking with Avila skills as of now, with 17Rb there's no question he is better in every way

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265510.319 in reply to 265510.318
Date: 5/10/2017 10:27:02 PM
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Maurice Mallaghan (35217643) will go on the TL next Monday. His salary is under 80k so no risk of losing him.
Still young (27) and a great potential (hall of famer), he wasn't trained last season but was a decent player, last time I checked only his JR was low.
So if someone is willing to keep training him, keep some cash on hand until next week ;)

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265510.320 in reply to 265510.317
Date: 5/16/2017 5:33:53 PM
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You get me. We're the two homies who seem to believe OD is absurdly broken at all positions. OD/ID/REB combined with GS is so busted.

Didn't want to make a big thing about this. Definitely wasn't insinuating that my inside SF/PF-type should make NT as a C. Beauchemin just doesn't look like a NT quality player. He's a major market inefficiency if he is though. 153k salary is manageable and 1.7m price tag is fine. Go buy that majestic beast up someone.

From: Fwinns

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265510.321 in reply to 265510.320
Date: 5/16/2017 10:57:07 PM
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Or for way cheaper, someone can buy Mallaghan (see my previous post) and keep training him ;)
610k right now, auction ends in 3 days

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265510.322 in reply to 265510.202
Date: 5/20/2017 5:31:09 PM
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265510.323 in reply to 265510.322
Date: 6/2/2017 6:55:05 AM
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Thanks. İ think keith is good. 700k very expensive... i just want to show :D

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265510.324 in reply to 265510.323
Date: 6/3/2017 2:18:08 PM
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I put 3 young canadian players on the NT roster (19yo MVP or HoF with already good skills), their owner should go bot in the next two weeks:
(41633768) TSP: 69 (40+29)
(41633788) TSP: 62 (42+20)
(43085475) TSP: 51 (35+16)

Shoot me a bb-mail if you want to know their skills before they hit the TL

Unrelated question: Did the "All-time great" potential disappear? The only players I could find with that potential are 33+ years old

Edit: I checked american players and they are a few 22yo All time great players so we're just not lucky it seems

Last edited by Fwinns at 6/3/2017 2:26:12 PM

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