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Türkiye vs Azərbaycan vs 138-68 (68730)

We've won our two easiest games against Puerto Rico and Azerbaijan with +96, and +70, which is quite good for our point difference.

After the 3rd round, there are 15 European nations with a score of 3:0, and one of these nations will likely host the next European Tournament.

1. France (**)		3:0	+171
2. Türkiye		3:0	+168
3. Suomi (**)		3:0	+152
4. Belgium (**)		3:0	+144
5. Magyarország		3:0	+136
7. Bosna		3:0	+120
8. Sverige		3:0	+119
9. Slovensko		3:0	+113
10. England		3:0	+101
11. Slovenija		3:0	+90
13. Bulgaria		3:0	+84
14. Rossiya		3:0	+77
15. Belarus		3:0	+73
17. Danmark		3:0	+65
18. Ukraina		3:0	+58

21. Lietuva (**)	2:1	+89
39. Srbija		1:2	+29
42. Portugal		1:2	+2

Lietuva, Serbia, and Portugal are also worth following even though they've lost some matches, since they are some of the strongest nations in the tournament. Nations with (**) can't host the European Tournament next season.

It's still too early to say who's the favorite, but Slovenia is looking quite strong to me.

Slovenia never won any medals, but their current generation is the best one they've ever had. Last season, they were very close to winning a medal, and they already have 2 nice victories against Lithuania and Czech Republic in the Consolation Tournament. If they win their next match against Venezuela, they will end up with a 8:0 score, and will definitely be among top 3 favorites to host the European Tournament.

Bulgaria is also a nation that I'm keeping an eye on. Just like Slovenia, they've never won any medals so far, but for the past 9 seasons they've been led by mink0ff, one of the best managers in BB, and their current generation is looking very talented.

Of course, we are also looking quite good after our victory against Portugal. But we do have another tough away match in the 5th round against Hungary, who are playing 3:0 so far.

But, before that, next Monday, we'll be playing against Singapore. This week, our game shape wasn't that good, 5/15 players were in GS 7, but since we played against a weak nation, it wasn't that important. I'm hoping that game shape will be better from now on, as we will need it for the match against Hungary in the 5th round.

I feel your pain about the GS management, keep up the good work coach (trophy)

Singapore vs Türkiye vs 71-109 (68760)

With the 4th game behind us, we've reached the halfway point of the round-robin phase. I was hoping for a ~50p victory against Singapore, but they had maximum enthusiasm against us. Still +38p isn't bad, so we've kept the 2nd place, behind France.

1. France (**)		4:0	+208
2. Türkiye		4:0	+206
3. Suomi (**)		4:0	+201
4. Bosna		4:0	+179
5. Belgium (**)		4:0	+159
6. Sverige		4:0	+159
9. England		4:0	+138
11. Bulgaria		4:0	+119
12. Rossiya		4:0	+106
13. Belarus		4:0	+97
14. Ukraina		4:0	+93
17. Lietuva (**)	3:1	+143
20. Magyarország	3:1	+108
22. Slovensko		3:1	+98
25. Slovenija		3:1	+76
33. Portugal		2:2	+67
35. Srbija		2:2	+38

Last week, we had 15 European nations without a loss, and after the 4th round, there are 11 European nations left undefeated, including us.

For us, most important result was Slovenia's defeat to Venezuela (68773). Belgium managed to win against Slovakia (68748), which is also good for us, since Belgium can't host the next European Tournament.

Next monday, we're playing against Hungary in Budapest. In the last 3 rounds, we've had easy opponents, but Hungary will be a tough match. Even though they are usually ranked between 30-50th place (currently 43th), with 263 users, they are in top 15 BB nations when it comes to the number of managers, so they always have some very good players in their NT.


@GForce03
Most players are getting good minutes, but we're just unlucky with the GS this season. Here are some examples:

Bingün:
1. week: 58min → GS 7
2. week: 60min → GS 7
3. week: 66min → GS 7
4. week: 76min → GS 8 (low)

Faruk (1st substitute for Bingün):
1. week: 65min → GS 7
2. week: 67min → GS 8 (low)
3. week: 61min → GS 8 (low)
4. week: 62min → GS 8 (medium)

Ergul (He has high ST, so with these minutes he should at least be in GS 8):
1. week: 78min → GS 7
2. week: 64min → GS 7
3. week: 75min → GS 7
4. week: 78min → GS 7

Only 3/15 players had GS 9 this week, so let's just hope we'll have better GS for the match against Hungary, cause we will need it.

1. week: 58min → GS 7
2. week: 60min → GS 7
3. week: 66min → GS 7
4. week: 76min → GS 8 (low)

Faruk (1st substitute for Bingün):
1. week: 65min → GS 7
2. week: 67min → GS 8 (low)
3. week: 61min → GS 8 (low)
4. week: 62min → GS 8 (medium)

Unrelated to NT but how can we see the levels (low, medium etc.)? I didn't know there was such a thing.


Last edited by Caveman at 3/14/2023 2:15:19 PM

You can figure it out based on player's DMI.

At the beginning of the season, DMI of a player is around 5x bigger than their salary. For example:
- When the DMI of a player is ~5x bigger than their salary, their GS should be either 7 (low), or 6 (high).
- When the DMI of a player is ~10x bigger than their salary, their GS should be either 8 (low), or 7 (high).
- When the DMI of a player is ~20x bigger than their salary, their GS should be either 9, or 8 (high).

ST plays a big role in DMI, so those with low ST may have GS 9 when their DMI is around 17x higher than their salary, while those with high ST will have GS 9 when their DMI is around 23x higher than their salary.

Anyway, I don't think it's possible to figure out the exact GS sublevel. But with DMI, it's possible to figure out whether the sublevel is low/medium/high, especially if you know the ST of a player.

Last edited by tunjevinа at 3/14/2023 3:18:03 PM

Thank you for the detailed explanation!

Today we're playing against Hungary, an opponent that I've been mentioning for a while now. They aren't as strong as Portugal, but they are still a tricky opponent to beat in an away match. They seem to have maximum enthusiasm, and our game shapes are similar.

Kezer got injured last week (45622230), so we won't be able to count on him for today's match. But thankfully, Mecdi finally has GS 8 (46958389), so he joined the team, as well as veteran Rikkat (45621606), who is still one of the best guards we have.

19:40 Türkiye vs Magyarország

Türkiye vs Magyarország vs 79-97 (68803)

First loss of the season. Home court + bigger enthusiasm + missed zone, resulted in a routine win for Hungary.

Since Ergül and Miran, our two best outside players were in GS 7, and Kezer was injured inside, our only viable option was to play an inside tactic. As for our defense in this match, I was contemplating whether to play 3-2 with an inside gdp, or a 2-3 without a gdp. I knew that we had to risk in order to win, and thought that the chances are slightly higher for them to play inside, rather than outside, since they played outside against Czech in the previous round (68775), and their outside offense was pretty poor in that match.

2. France (**)		5:0	+226
3. Suomi (**)		5:0	+225
4. Belgium (**)		5:0	+223
5. Bulgaria		5:0	+209
6. Bosna		5:0	+194
7. Sverige		5:0	+171
8. England		5:0	+168
10. Ukraina		5:0	+130
11. Rossiya		5:0	+122
12. Lietuva (**)	4:1	+204
13. Türkiye		4:1	+188
14. România		4:1	+185
15. Slovenija		4:1	+126
16. Magyarország	4:1	+126
19. Latvija		4:1	+104
21. Belarus		4:1	+83
23. Danmark		4:1	+21

27. Slovensko		3:2	+83
28. Portugal		3:2	+79
32. Srbija		3:2	+65

Our next two matches against India and Costa Rica should be easy wins, and than in the last round the match against Belgium will determine whether we play 7-1 or 6-2 after the round-robin phase.

We had 3 tough matches in our draw, Portugal (A), Hungary (A), and Belgium (H). I knew it would be difficult to win all three, but as long as we win against Belgium, we should be in a good position before the playoffs.

India vs Türkiye vs 41-117 (68839)

1. France (**)		6:0	+302
2. Belgium (**)		6:0	+297
4. England		6:0	+248
5. Bulgaria		6:0	+241
6. Bosna		6:0	+222
7. Rossiya		6:0	+187
9. România		5:1	+268
10. Türkiye		5:1	+264
11. Lietuva (**)	5:1	+232
12. Suomi (**)		5:1	+212
14. Sverige		5:1	+143
15. Slovenija		5:1	+132
17. Ukraina		5:1	+128
19. Latvija		5:1	+116
20. Danmark		5:1	+24

21. Slovensko		4:2	+164
23. Portugal		4:2	+144
24. Srbija		4:2	+128

After 6 rounds, only 6 European teams remain with all 6 wins. As I've mentioned before, it's gonna be difficult for any nation to win in all 8 games. There will be some interesting match-ups between the top nations in the next round:

Belgium (6-0) vs England (6-0)
Ukraine (5-1) vs Bulgaria (6-0)
Sweden (5-1) vs Bosnia (6-0)
Australia (4-2) vs Romania (5-1)

Our next game is against Costa Rica, which we should be able to win easily. Our point difference is already looking good, but we should be able to improve it further with the next game, as Costa Rica only has 2 active users, and is quite weak.

Türkiye vs Costa Rica 109-54 (68873)

Last week, we've beaten Costa Rica easily as expected.

1. France (**)		7:0	+357
2. Belgium (**)		7:0	+322
3. Rossiya		7:0	+258
4. Bulgaria		7:0	+244
5. Bosna		7:0	+231
7. Türkiye		6:1	+319
8. Lietuva (**)		6:1	+257
9. Suomi (**)		6:1	+255
11. England		6:1	+223
12. Latvija		6:1	+185
14. Slovenija		6:1	+165
16. Portugal		5:2	+217
17. Srbija		5:2	+213

In their last match, Bulgaria managed to win by 2p against Urkaine in their most difficult match (68884), and Bosnia managed to win against Sweden after overtime (68889). With these victories, they will surely play 8-0.

5 European nations remain undefeated, and 6 more (including us) are playing 6-1. There are many European nations playing 5-2, and Portugal and Serbia are the strongest among those.

Interesting matches in the last round:

Away Team	Home Team
Belgium (7-0)	vs Türkiye (6-1)
France (7-0)	vs England (6-1)
Eesti (4-3)	vs Rossiya (7-0)
Suomi (6-1)	vs Österreich (5-2)

The calculations are simple. If we win against Belgium by 2+ points, we will be in front of them, and will end up in the top 5, since Colombia (currently 6th), will almost certainly lose against Lithuania.

If we lose, we'll end up between 13th-15th place, which is pretty bad, and we wouldn't stand much of a chance to win the Tournament.

That being said, our game shape continues to be poor. Pretty much all season our game shape has been worse than our opponents'. This week, we only have 4 players with GS 9, and 3 players are with GS 7, among which are Bingün & Ergul, who are arguably our most important players. Compared to that, Belgium has 8 players in GS 9, and just 1 player in GS 7.

Still, we have the home court advantage, so it should be an interesting battle.

18:00 Belgium vs Türkiye

Belgium vs Türkiye 86-80 (68923)

Last Monday we played a very close match against Belgium, which they managed to turn around in the 4th quarter. The main reason for the loss was that I chickened out and didn't guess inside gdp, even though I fully expected them to play inside. Even though our game shape was much worse than theirs, I thought that home court advantage alone would be enough, but I was wrong.

The match against Belgium was a key match for us. With a defeat, we ended up the round robin phase on a 13th place, which isn't good, since we're only gonna have home court advantage in the next round.

In the end, 22 European nations qualified for the round 32.

1. France (**)		8:0	+366
2. Belgium (**)		8:0	+328
3. Bosna		8:0	+325
4. Bulgaria		8:0	+313
5. Rossiya		8:0	+277
7. Lietuva (**)		7:1	+287
8. Suomi (**)		7:1	+278
9. Latvija		7:1	+214
10. Slovenija		7:1	+204
13. Türkiye		6:2	+313
14. România		6:2	+278
15. Srbija		6:2	+243
16. Portugal		6:2	+230
17. England		6:2	+214
18. Hrvatska		6:2	+207
22. Magyarország	6:2	+148
23. Danmark		6:2	+29
24. Česká Rep.		5:3	+213
25. Slovensko		5:3	+170
27. Österreich		5:3	+148
30. Ukraina		5:3	+115
31. Sverige		5:3	+113

Even though BBs changed the way how draw works for this season, luck in draw still played a major part, since we had 3 very tough matches from which 2 were away, while some were lucky to not get any tough away matches against European nations.

Game shape of our key players seems to be the worst when we play the most important matches. Game shape against Belgium was so bad that I was even considering to let Ergul and Bingun play even though their GS was 6 & 7, since even their substitutes who are much worse players were in low 8. Poor GS is mainly my fault to be frank (partially luck too), as I should've been more in contact with the managers of NT players, and keep reminding them to keep their minutes optimal.

Our path towards the semi-final looks like this:

Round 32: Venezuela (home)
Round 16: Bulgaria or Uruguay (most likely Bulgaria away)
Round 8: Winner of: Russia vs Malaysia & Peru vs Colombia (most likely Russia or Colombia away)

From now on, we need to win every game. Today we're playing against Venezuela, whose biggest victory this season was against Slovenia (68773). They're most likely gonna play crunch time, so it won't be an easy match.

18:00 Venezuela vs Türkiye