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From: demars

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Date: 11/23/2025 12:06:08 PM
Elan Demars
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PA (in my mind) was for Points Differential (sorry for the mistake !)

From: LennuK.

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I don't really have a preference regarding this matter. I could work with either PD, PF or PA as the second parameter to decide on ties. PD seems to be most generally used one across different sports, so there would be nothing wrong about using this. Though, if we would like to follow another path, then I would be up to reward the best defense in these situations too!

From: WiMaOl

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Date: 11/24/2025 7:27:05 AM
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the same as Demars, I prefer his proposal rather than only using point difference

From: Wagner

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Date: 11/24/2025 7:50:53 AM
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PA (in my mind) was for Points Differential (sorry for the mistake !)

No worries, thanks for correction.

From: Wagner

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Date: 11/24/2025 7:54:48 AM
Wagner College
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the same as Demars, I prefer his proposal rather than only using point difference

I see. It's good to have a layer of comparison methods that step in a place if needed, and preferably have order of them pre-determined.
Yes, it's unlikely 2 teams wouid have same point differential, but it could theoretically happen, especially in a relatively even league like HGL (at least even between teams fighting for same positions).

From: Wagner

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Date: 11/24/2025 7:59:26 AM
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I don't really have a preference regarding this matter. I could work with either PD, PF or PA as the second parameter to decide on ties. PD seems to be most generally used one across different sports, so there would be nothing wrong about using this. Though, if we would like to follow another path, then I would be up to reward the best defense in these situations too!

Thanks for your opinion, LennuK., and I'm glad to hear you´re open to different ways of handling this situation!
Yes, PD is mostly used around real leagues in my experience/understanding as well. And what's one positive side of it, current way of handling things (league table calculations) do give a direct indication of this without making any additional calculations.
(Yes, if the team stats would be made available on a regular basis, that would also "automatically" provide us PA and PF valiues, but for instance now I'm running late in creating such stats, so PD is something that's already always "automatically" available).

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Date: 11/25/2025 6:46:51 AM
Rajdersi
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Hi,

by virtual table I meant that you only consider games between tied teams and make small table with few games between them.
I am not sure if its fair.
We have a lot of games and maybe every +/- should count etc.

ED proposal seems fine.
ED likes offensive points, Wagner likes defensive points, I am rather def type but both are ok.

I checked that official rules promote offensive points like ED said so maybve we can stick to that.......

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Date: 11/25/2025 6:46:57 AM
Rajdersi
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Hi,

by virtual table I meant that you only consider games between tied teams and make small table with few games between them.
I am not sure if its fair.
We have a lot of games and maybe every +/- should count etc.

ED proposal seems fine.
ED likes offensive points, Wagner likes defensive points, I am rather def type but both are ok.

I checked that official rules promote offensive points like ED said so maybve we can stick to that.......

From: LennuK.
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Date: 11/25/2025 9:39:28 AM
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Hey all, a very minor change to my team sees a player (55180719) leaving my team, which modifies my top-8 statistics to 387K $ top-8 salary (from 391K $) and an avg age of 23,0 y (from 23,6 y).

From: Wagner

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Date: 11/25/2025 9:52:08 AM
Wagner College
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Hey all, a very minor change to my team sees a player (55180719) leaving my team, which modifies my top-8 statistics to 387K $ top-8 salary (from 391K $) and an avg age of 23,0 y (from 23,6 y).

Thank you for letting us know. Now that I've compiled Season 2 and Season 3 transfers of HGL teams, it has partly caught me by surprise how many of them there have been.
I'll publish a listing of them as a separate Transfer post (due to amount and character limitation) quite soon.
I'll also likely send you couple of BBMails to verify whether or not I have to edit Season 3 beginning top8-salaries (as I'd prefer to use start of the season as a moment to determine
A) whether or not transfer has occurred on current or previous season
B) top8-salaries of teams at the start of the season

also because that's the ultimate deadline, when you have to have a 100%HG roster.
In other words, the situation on Season 3 on October 20th, 2025.

And maybe it's also good to have some clear deadline for the future, that we can rely on/use.

If one does calculations of top8 salaries (other than me), it's fine if they're not available at the very start of the season, as as a tradeoff we can then avoid these sort of "off season trades affect top8-numbers, but in where should we draw the line in terms of when it's a transfer that's occurred on new season?"-kind of situations.

Last edited by Wagner at 11/25/2025 9:54:09 AM

From: LennuK.

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Date: 11/25/2025 10:09:13 AM
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Sure, if we agree to have the day of the first HGL game (Monday after the first regular league game) as the ultimate deadline, then I will do the same calculations from Season 4 accordingly to make sure that the top-8 salaries of respective seasons don't have to be adjusted mid-season.

Feel free to let me know if you want me to recalculate the top-8 statistics for other teams apart from FRE for this season, where transfers were done between October 15th and October 20th. I can then also try to recreate the teams for affected teams on October 20th and provide the corrected data.

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