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Date: 12/19/2007 5:31:02 AM
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So it seems like the first 10 minutes or so of every one of my games is pretty weird. There are always a ton of missed shots on both sides (against teams where the final score is very lopsided, like 115-70), and a very large number of intercepted passes. Does anyone else experience this?

Is it possible that for the first few mins the players are not yet tired, so their defense is good enough to contest most shots? I can't think of any other real reasons.

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10366.3 in reply to 10366.2
Date: 12/19/2007 2:25:51 PM
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I agree, and it makes some sense, but right now I think the difference may be a little too pronounced, since the first few minutes are chock full of misses and steals. For instance, through 8 minutes of play last night my game was 4-2, the quarter finished 19-5, and the final score was in the 115 - 70 range.

I'm glad the defense on my guys is working, I'd just like to see it spread out over more time, since the first part of a game is pretty much unwatchable (in terms of fun) at this point.

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10366.4 in reply to 10366.1
Date: 12/19/2007 2:29:43 PM
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So it seems like the first 10 minutes or so of every one of my games is pretty weird. There are always a ton of missed shots on both sides (against teams where the final score is very lopsided, like 115-70), and a very large number of intercepted passes. Does anyone else experience this?

Is it possible that for the first few mins the players are not yet tired, so their defense is good enough to contest most shots? I can't think of any other real reasons.


it's happening to me also, but only in the last games

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10366.5 in reply to 10366.4
Date: 12/19/2007 6:36:47 PM
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So i have an explanation for what is going on... in a lopsided matchup the team which is overmatched starts out looking for the kind of shots its used to being able to get. But because it is overmatched it can't find any looks at the basket that good, and it ends up turning the ball over cause it keeps trying to pass it around to find a good shot. Over the first few minutes they figure out they aren't gonna get those great shots so they start settling for worse shots... they at least get something off even though its not likely to go in.

I think this is pretty reasonable approximation of what goes on in real life. You'll often seen overpowering teams run up a quick lead on an overmatched opponent before the overpowering team stops trying so hard and the overmatched team figures out how to at least gets some shots off.

Edited by BB-Forrest (12/19/2007 6:39:53 PM CET)

Last edited by BB-Forrest at 12/19/2007 6:39:53 PM

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10366.6 in reply to 10366.5
Date: 12/19/2007 9:46:02 PM
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I might be able to buy that, but is the GE really that smart? It may be (somewhat) realistic, but it makes for a boring first few minutes and some confused managers when their team plays like crap for seemingly no reason at first.

Also, your explanation explains why my opponent sucked (since he was overmatched) but not why my team played poorly as well. I had just as many misses and turnovers in that period as my opponent.

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10366.7 in reply to 10366.6
Date: 12/20/2007 3:29:00 PM
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two things... first, yes the GE is that smart cause that's the way i designed it ;)

second, what game was this? because actually what i said applies to an overmatched offense/defense not team. So if both teams were better defensively than offensively this would be the case... think wisconsin vs princeton.

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10366.8 in reply to 10366.7
Date: 12/20/2007 3:40:58 PM
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I'm talking about my most recent game, but I can't speak for how good his defense is.

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10366.9 in reply to 10366.8
Date: 1/1/2008 7:17:44 PM
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check this out (1343215)

There were instances on this game that right after i make shot my opponent scores at the same time. This happen a lot and there are instances that the shot is missed.Still, it's kinda weird that both teams can score at the same time.

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10366.10 in reply to 10366.1
Date: 1/2/2008 1:08:47 PM
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The only thing that annoys me about the match viewer is seeing player x misses a shot, player y grabs the rebound & player z is called for an offensive foul all in the same second.