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From: Lukebee
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110104.1
Date: 9/9/2009 12:10:50 AM
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I am training my 3 Centres in IS. I had an idea of how to get them all to play exactly 48 minutes.

Can somebody tell me if this is a bad idea or not.

If I play only one in each of my 3 games with no substitutions and have foul trouble set to let them play I thnk this will work.

But will this have a bad effect on their performance in the game? Or does it increase the risk of injury or lower game shape?

Its wearing on my mind...
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110104.2 in reply to 110104.1
Date: 9/9/2009 1:42:39 AM
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That general plan sounds right to me. I would recommend setting a player as starter, backup, and reserve for the game where you want him to play all 48 minutes (not sure if you meant this or not). This will work well most of the time.

One thing that can cause an issue is if you are blowing out the other team, and are winning by 20+ points in the 4th quarter. In this scenario, your coach will always try to take every starter out of the game, including your trainee. The best way to avoid this is to have no extra players sitting around; if there is no one available, then your trainee will stay in the game by default. If you are forcing 48 minutes at one position, using just 9 players for the game helps avoid any problems caused by a huge lead.

I wouldn't be concerned about injuries, and the game shape effect is the same as if the player played 48 minutes for the week in any other way.

A player will generally play worse if you play them for a full 48 minutes, due to stamina issues. How much of a performance hit varies from player to player, but stamina is definately a factor.

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110104.3 in reply to 110104.2
Date: 9/9/2009 6:45:33 AM
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your other positions can have a backup, only the center must be clear or make the same player as backup.


One thing that can cause an issue is if you are blowing out the other team, and are winning by 20+ points in the 4th quarter. In this scenario, your coach will always try to take every starter out of the game, including your trainee.

you can avoid this by setting the substitution order "Strictly Follow Depth Chart"

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110104.5 in reply to 110104.4
Date: 9/9/2009 8:11:25 AM
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No, you can't. Blowout substitutions happen regardless of what type of coach involvement is selected.
as I selected "Strictly Follow Depth Chart" coach never brought a PF backup in a position of SF or C, that is what I experienced. then why Depth Chart until 4th is there? In DC u 4th coach rotates backup or starters positions only in the 4th quarter.

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110104.7 in reply to 110104.6
Date: 9/9/2009 1:28:16 PM
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in "Strictly Follow Depth Chart" selection rotation won't happen. like PF backup to SF or C positions. maybe in case of foul trouble or injury.

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110104.9 in reply to 110104.8
Date: 9/9/2009 2:26:54 PM
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what I mean "PF backup to SF or C positions" is that some games I have seen that my PF backup subbing SF or sometimes C in the 4th quarter, even in the weekly stats page I see that PF got 3 or 4 minutes at SF position though he was a PF backup not SF backup. so when I choose " strictly flow depth chart" I didn't see such kind of rotation.

all I want to say is that to give a trainee e.g C 48 minutes, no backup for his position or the same player as a backup, to make sure that the coach won't rotate any other backup to rest that C trainee select " strictly flow depth chart" .


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110104.10 in reply to 110104.9
Date: 9/9/2009 3:38:56 PM
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Are you describing a situation where you only have 9 players dressed for the game? In this case, there are often many things you could do with your lineup that would result in a player staying in for all 48 minutes fairly consistently.

However, the main point I was making is that if you dress 10 or more players, and are winning by more than 20 points in the 4th quarter, all 5 starters will come out of the game. It doesn't seem to matter what you do in terms of depth chart instructions, or where you place backups and reserves on the lineup card. This is why if you think you may win in a blowout, dressing only 9 players helps ensure that one trainee will stay in for a full 48 minutes. If you want to force 48 minutes at 2 positions, you would want 8 players, at 3 ppsitions, you would want 7 players, and so on.

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110104.11 in reply to 110104.10
Date: 9/9/2009 4:53:54 PM
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Even if you dress 9 engine can still screw you. Rare but it happens. Ask jbmrock or dig that thread in bug forum.