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From: ned
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112406.1
Date: 9/19/2009 12:55:32 PM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Slaytanic
It could be fun and better to implement or to increase the number of tactics we can chose anyway speaking about the existing tactics it seems that the faster are still better than the others, why?

Have you think to recalculate a tactic like princeton, a tactic that is almost never used cause it seems the worst one.

Playing man to man is the easier way to set a game, don't you think that against a run&gun a 3-2 zone should have better results? When do you think we will see a more defensive tactic against a look inside like 1-3-1 against an outside attack?
Speaking about 1-3-1 I think that no one team in BBB will use it cause the teams have more or less the same power (in the final rounds) and even in in some first divisions 1-3-1 means a defeat, have you idea to change it?

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et
From: modred
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112406.2 in reply to 112406.1
Date: 9/19/2009 2:57:01 PM
Myopic Marauders
III.8
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Any thoughts on being able to give individual players hints on tactics?

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112406.3 in reply to 112406.2
Date: 9/19/2009 3:02:38 PM
1986 Celtics
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you mean like you want to tell this player, shoot less.. or this player shoot more?

From: modred
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112406.4 in reply to 112406.3
Date: 9/19/2009 3:05:14 PM
Myopic Marauders
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you mean like you want to tell this player, shoot less.. or this player shoot more?


yes. Or this player to try to drive to the basket instead of taking the jump shot. Or this player never to get more than 3 feet from the paint.

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112406.5 in reply to 112406.4
Date: 9/19/2009 3:08:56 PM
1986 Celtics
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I think we would need to think about additional adjustements to prevent these advanced tactics from creating messed up game play... like if things got out of control and only two players took shots all game, or something like that, where its clear that a real team playing against that opponent would adjust in a way to make the tactics they were trying to accomplish impossible. So we'd have a lot of things to tune to get these things really right. I think right now that would be a pretty large change in the GE and so we aren't inclined to do it. If it all worked perfectly it would be cool.. but I see a lot of opportunities for certain combinations of lineups and tactics becoming dominant in that kind of system, and we want to make sure that multiple strategies are all viable, and there is no "right" answer.

Last edited by BB-Forrest at 9/19/2009 3:10:22 PM

From: modred
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112406.7 in reply to 112406.5
Date: 9/19/2009 4:20:51 PM
Myopic Marauders
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How about some realism about how many three's a center with no jump shot will take...? :-)

Understood about the individual player tactics, so what about more control over when substitutions take place?

From: ned

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112406.8 in reply to 112406.6
Date: 9/19/2009 4:27:08 PM
Freccia Azzurra
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Slaytanic
josef please have a look the final games of the National teams, do you think all the coaches are crazies?
If you play against a weakerx3 team you can't compare exactly what I'm saying, you must apply your theory with teams similar to yours with the same enthusiasm (for your today match you can cancel from your "wrong and wrong") and if possible making some stats about what you're saying, I'm sorry but I prefer to listen the opinion of Forrest about it without offense of course ;)

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et
From: ned

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112406.10 in reply to 112406.9
Date: 9/19/2009 4:49:27 PM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Slaytanic
of course josef and I repeat nothing against you but it's hard for me listen someone saying that princeton is a winning tactic when I see one of your match: (15719332) in the same game you can see that 3-2 is not given you any bonus, lakers scored with almost 50% so at the end I know some teams in bundesliga one of them was Lakers, I will see your tactis against the others than we can drop us a line each other. Personally I've closed my experience with princeton with this match: (6248329), when I say that 3-2 or in general having the "correct" tactic don't give a bonus I speak about games like this: (13117674) and in any case in general m2m is the easier tactic to choice cause you can't be wrong, instead when you chose to defend 2-3 you're risking to waste a victory if the other team plays r&g that's why I hope the correct tactic will be more important for the future ;)

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et