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How about an ultra super rare "Once-in-a-lifetime" player?

I don't really think this would make any change...

How about an ultra super rare "Once-in-a-lifetime" player?

It's called "All-time great"...

Just think about it, all of the all time greats out there, there are a rare breed of players that even surpass the players we even consider an all time great. Would you consider Jordan and Lebron all time greats or once in a lifetime players?

Last edited by Dave Studd at 9/27/2009 9:42:40 AM

To answer your question, at this point, I consider LeBron to be somewhere between a perennial all-star and a hall-of-famer.

Otherwise, I don't think that there are that many all-time-greats out there, especially given that a lot of them will never make it to a skill set that's even close to their maximum potential.

I consider LeBron at least Hall-of-famer! Wade is an MVP and Anthony a Superstar. Perrenial Allstar are player like Steve Nash and All-starplayers are like Stephen Marbury.

I agree, at least a HOF. I don't think most of the all time greats(in my mind HOF) have these stats. These are his stats at this moment.

* 2-time NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2006,[2] 2008
* 3-time NBA First-team
* 1-time NBA All-Defensive First Team
* 5-time NBA All-Star: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 [2]
* 5-time All-NBA: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 [2]
* 1-time NBA All-Defensive: 2009 [2]
* FIBA Americas Championship: 2007 [3]
* Olympic Champion: 2008 [3]
* NBA regular season leader, points per game: 2008 (30.0).[2]
* NBA regular season leader, field goals made: 2005 (795), 2008 (794).[2]
* NBA regular season leader, free throws made: 2009 (594).[2]
* NBA regular season leader, minutes played: 2005 (3,388), 2007 (3,190).[2]
* NBA regular season leader, triple-doubles: 2009 (7).[2]
* NBA regular season leader, efficiency: 2008 (30.3), 2009 (30.9).[2]
* NBA regular season leader, traditional three-point plays: 2006 (79).[4]
* Career 30+ point games (regular season): 161 (as of 2008-09)
* Career 30+ point games (postseason): 26 (as of 2009 playoffs)
* Career 40+ point games (regular season): 32 (as of 2008-09) [5]
* Career 40+ point games (postseason): 8 (as of 2009 playoffs) [5]
* Career 50+ point games (regular season): 8 (as of 2008-09) [5]
* Career triple-doubles (regular season): 24 (as of March 19, 2009) [3]
* Career triple-doubles (postseason): 4 (as of 2009) [3]

[edit] NBA achievements and milestones

* One of three players in NBA history to average at least 20 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists in their rookie season.[3]
o Includes Oscar Robertson and Michael Jordan.
* One of five players in NBA history to average over 25 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists in a season.[3]
o Includes Oscar Robertson (achieved this six times), John Havlicek (achieved this twice), Larry Bird, and Michael Jordan.
* One of four players in NBA history to average at least 31 points, 7 rebounds and 6 assists in a season.[3]
o Includes Oscar Robertson (achieved this twice), Jerry West, and Michael Jordan.
* One of two players in NBA history to average at least 27 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for five consecutive seasons.[3]
o Behind Oscar Robertson, who achieved this eight consecutive times.
* One of two players in NBA history to post at least 2000 points, 500 rebounds and 500 assists in a season for at least four times.[3]
o Behind Oscar Robertson, who achieved this six times in his career.
* One of three players in NBA history to average at least 30 points, 10 rebounds and 7 assists in a postseason series.[6]
o Includes Oscar Robertson and Larry Bird.
* One of three players in NBA history to record a triple-double in their playoff debut.[3]
o Includes Johnny McCarthy and Magic Johnson.
* One of two players in NBA history to win the NBA Player of the Month Award four times in one season (2008-09 season).[7]
o Tied with Kevin Garnett, who achieved the same in the 2003-04 NBA Season.
* One of four players in NBA history to lead their team in all five major statistical categories (total points, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals) in a season (2008-09 season).[8]
o Includes Dave Cowens (1977-78), Scottie Pippen (1994-95) and Kevin Garnett (2002-03).
* 2nd place all-time for consecutive 20-point games to start a playoff career with 19.[9]
o Behind Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's 27 consecutive games
* Most consecutive points scored for a team in a playoff game with 25 straight points.[10]

[edit] Youngest player records

James owns numerous NBA "youngest player" records:1

* Youngest player to be named NBA Rookie of the Year (19 years of age).[3]
* Youngest player to record a triple-double (20 years, 20 days).[3]
o Recorded 27 points, 11 rebounds, and 10 assi

Just think about it, all of the all time greats out there, there are a rare breed of players that even surpass the players we even consider an all time great. Would you consider Jordan and Lebron all time greats or once in a lifetime players?

it is also a difference betwenn, having the potential and using it ;) Probadly you don't know him, but Peter Fehse a german PF was often called the "new Nowitzki", so i think he have huge potential but he doesn't work that hard to use it(+ he got many injurys so that he play at a pretty low level).

We don't have that much big propspect, and most of them never reach their caps. Also i don't think, that your "new potential" will get better then the actual best potential which gives pretty much oppurtunitys to build a top player.

it is also a difference betwenn, having the potential and using it

Lol! You are sooo right about that. You know how many players in the U.S. they tried to call the next Dirk? But there are those people that is their destiny to change the norm of the game. When you have the tools already and you use them to maximum potential and then raise the bar, you are a rare breed of player. It's kinda like back in the day there were all these air bands playing in the music industry and then came nirvana.........Boom! The music industry had it's bar raised.

Even if Lebron were second best (which he is not) to Jordan he would still be a twice-in-a-lifetime player to me, since Jordan has already played in my lifetime.

This is an example list, as I call it, describing my opinion for potentional:
announcer: Olowokandi and players like him...
bench warmer: Ronnie Turiaf
role player: Janeiro Pargo
6th man: Vuijcic
starter: Quentin Richardson
star: Jason Richardson
allstar: Ricky Davis
perennial allstar: Steve Nash
superstar: Shaq
MVP: Dwayne Wade
hall of famer: LeBron James
all-time great: Michael Jordan