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From: Ozzy
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Date: 12/4/2009 10:36:53 AM
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Does anyone of you have the same problem like me?!

Well... one of my players (19-year, MVP) didn't get training for 3 weeks!
I'm training 1 position, pressure, and he didn't get training!

Actually he didn't play 48 min per week... he played something like 41, 45 and 39 min per week. But anyway that should be enough for at least 1 skill-up for those 3 weeks!

Is there anything changed in training engine? Why such a big difference between full training minutes, and a little lower?!

I don't know... I think that something is changed here :(

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120888.2 in reply to 120888.1
Date: 12/4/2009 10:47:37 AM
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it suppose to be difference that`s why you have to count minutes all the time if you wanna maximize you trainings.

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120888.3 in reply to 120888.1
Date: 12/4/2009 10:51:01 AM
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he played something like 41, 45 and 39 min per week.


As the Z said, this part is key. Anything less than 48 minutes and you are not getting optimal training. The 39 min week was particularly bad... The drop-off is not linear, so 39 minutes is probably something like only half a week of training.

Pressure is already one of the longest things to train... So I am not surprised with this result.

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120888.4 in reply to 120888.1
Date: 12/4/2009 10:56:05 AM
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I'm training 1 position, pressure, and he didn't get training!

Actually he didn't play 48 min per week... he played something like 41, 45 and 39 min per week. But anyway that should be enough for at least 1 skill-up for those 3 weeks!


Not at all, I'd be much more surprised if you got a pop in those circumstances.

Training is the same as it has been.

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120888.5 in reply to 120888.1
Date: 12/4/2009 11:01:44 AM
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Similar thing here, but a bit worse, I guess. I also currently train pressing (PG position only). It's now forth week since I am waiting for my 21 y.o. to raise his OD skill. IIRC, three of those four weeks he got 48+ minutes playing time. Not sure if that lasts too long - I guess previous pressing training sessions lasted shorter.

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Date: 12/4/2009 11:04:03 AM
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Similar thing here, but a bit worse, I guess. I also currently train pressing (PG position only). It's now forth week since I am waiting for my 21 y.o. to raise his OD skill. IIRC, three of those four weeks he got 48+ minutes playing time. Not sure if that lasts too long - I guess previous pressing training sessions lasted shorter.


Last season it took 4 weeks, 1 position training, with 48+ minutes per week to get an OD pop on one of my players.

Of course, he is also 6 foot 10 and was 23 yrs old at the time. But just to show you that depending on circumstances, this is not unusual.

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120888.7 in reply to 120888.3
Date: 12/4/2009 11:08:55 AM
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Well we dont know his height and level of OD skill compared to the other but i'd expect jump anyway.. And i dont agree 39'=50% training at all. I have trained 6weeks passing (5times pg only) having 5 skillups in PA (1st,2nd,4th,5th,6th week) with 40' at the 6th week.. Maybe the guy is tall and his OD is highest skill..atm he is maybe at very high sublevel and could jump twice in 3 weeks of full training

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Date: 12/4/2009 11:10:22 AM
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it took 4 weeks, 1 position training, with 48+ minutes per week to get an OD pop on one of my players.

Of course, he is also 6 foot 10 and was 23 yrs old at the time
I have a 6'11" 23 y.o.(soon 24) that has to get 4-5 levels of OD to be finished. Guess he will be turning 26 before I can conclude his training. Starting to show some good results though so I guess I can live with it

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120888.9 in reply to 120888.5
Date: 12/4/2009 11:24:42 AM
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Motto you could take a look at my player Algirdas Ulba and as you could see he has best height possible for training as PG and still pressure takes 5 weeks to pop-up, sometimes 4 week, but rare to happen.

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120888.10 in reply to 120888.7
Date: 12/4/2009 11:38:45 AM
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Well we dont know his height and level of OD skill compared to the other but i'd expect jump anyway..


Actually, I was trying to point to the fact that many things affect training. I was actually wondering if his trainee is getting close to his skill cap. He may not be completely capped, but I think there is some evidence that as you approach the cap, training starts to slow down a bit.

Or as the Z said, it could just be his age.

And i dont agree 39'=50% training at all.


Well, on this one I do not know the answer 100%, but I know for sure it is not linear. So the penalty for 39 minutes is not negligible.

Last edited by HeadPaperPusher at 12/4/2009 11:42:05 AM

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120888.11 in reply to 120888.3
Date: 12/4/2009 11:44:09 AM
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]The drop-off is not linear, so 39 minutes is probably something like only half a week of training]


really?