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From: 7ton
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Date: 12/29/2009 8:05:11 AM
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I have been playing my PG & SG trainees 48 min a match. No problem. But what if they get injured or fouled out? I have been assigning one of the substitutes of my non-trained position (e.g. SF) as a reserve for that non-trained position (SF again) so that he would slot in for him (PG / SG) for the rest of the match. But it seems it doesn't work anymore. This season I have been unlucky enough to see my trainees leaving the court prematurely for 2 times already. And very annoyingly my coach just rotated all my substitutes (SF, PF, C) for the trained position. So how do you set your lineup to have a 'substitute trainee'?

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Date: 12/29/2009 8:47:25 PM
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I am not asking for perfect training every week. I am only asking for a plan B but it seems I am not allowed to have it anymore. I believe the BB developers have changed the substitution logic.

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Date: 12/29/2009 10:01:49 PM
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I am not asking for perfect training every week. I am only asking for a plan B but it seems I am not allowed to have it anymore. I believe the BB developers have changed the substitution logic.


They would have said so if they did.

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Date: 12/30/2009 12:34:54 PM
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the substitutions always worked like this...

I have been training my players 48 minutes a match for a very very long time. since season 3 and a half :)

As soon as you put a player as a backup or as a reserve for a player you want him to get 48 minutes, you will be in trouble...

So if you want to single train a player in 1 game for 48 minutes you put only 9 players in the team. And only on the court and on the backup lists... if you want to train 2 players you only take 8 players...

If for example you put a player as a reserve for a Centre or PF spot and you are training single position your PG for example, you risk your coach bringing in the reserve center or pf for your PG...

The only way to make sure a player gets 48 minutes (as long he doesnt make 6 fouls or gets injured) is by making sure for that position you dont have a backup and you have no reserves at all...


Yes you take a risk. But this way you can train 6 players the full 48 minutes if you would like and that is worth the risk imo...

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Date: 12/30/2009 1:29:59 PM
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Sorry for being a little of topic, but what was your experience with GS when a player only plays 48min for the week?

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Date: 12/30/2009 2:27:46 PM
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you are on topic :)

what i did was the following...

i was training guards. I played them 48 minutes 1 position and than the i played them for example in SF position.

with strictly following depth chart that would mean 1 guy would play 12-20 minutes and the other 36-28. In both cases this means between 70-80 minutes which is alright for game shape...

i hope you understand what i am trying to say. if not tell me and i will give a more details example...

From: TnT

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Date: 12/30/2009 5:20:35 PM
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To get your players to play all 48min per match, I assume you are letting them play through foul trouble with no backup/reserve. Assuming you are training PG, you set no backup/reserve for the PG position but you set backup/reserve for the other positions. For those position with backup/reserves, you see minutes distribution in the ballpark of 36-28(starter) to 12-20(backup) even with "foul trouble = let them play". Is my understanding correct? Thanks.

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Date: 12/30/2009 5:47:10 PM
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48 min is still a very good contribution, comparable with 70 min.

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Date: 12/30/2009 8:28:20 PM
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So from a GS perspective, are you saying playing 48min is better than 70min? Will your game GS goes down or up playing 48min vs 70min? If I remember correctly, I have played my guys in the 70ish range and didn't see much negative impact on GS. I don't know about 48min since I rarely have guys at around 48min (either way below 48 or >60).

From: 7ton

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Date: 12/30/2009 8:46:18 PM
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I was able to get my players up to proficient game shape with 48 min. No problems with that.