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4 coach at $20000
6 coach at $90000

Does the additional ability of a 6 coach to train your 18yo players exceed the additional salary? ( I say $90000 6 coach because starting teams can't get a 6 coach for any less than that.
Thoughts.

When you say 20000 and 90000 I assume you are talking about salary? If so, you can get a level 4 for a lot less than that. I got mine at 10k.

Personally I would go with the level 4 coach. It will cost a lot less, and unless you have a very very good trainee that is worth it, the extra money you would save going with the level 4 coach would allow you to buy a much better player than the one you are going to train.

Season is about 14 weeks long.
For a level 6 trainer = 90000 x 14 = 1.26 million + initial signing bonus.
For a level 4 trainer = 10000 x 14 = 140k
This is not including the raise in salary as I'm just keeping it simple, but the raise in salary for the level 6 trainer will be more than the raise of salary for the level 4 trainer.
I'm not sure what a level 6 trainer with 90k salary goes for these days, but lets say it goes for 140k (just to keep it simple).
That means you will save 1 million dollars over a season if you go with the level 4 trainer.
The level 6 trainer will probably get you 4 or 5 weeks of extra training per season. 4 or 5 weeks is equivalent to about 3 pops (depending on what you are training).
So the question you have to ask yourself is whether you would rather have a million dollars, or those extra 3 pops per player.

In general i agree with you, but you are rather generous on the affect of lvl trainer.

You mean generous in that the level 6 trainer gets 5-6 weeks of extra training? Yeah it's probably a bit more than you do get, but at a maximum you might get 6 weeks, and so I was just trying to show that even in a best case scenario (for the level 6 trainer) the level 4 trainer is still the optimum solution.

When you say 20000 and 90000 I assume you are talking about salary? If so, you can get a level 4 for a lot less than that. I got mine at 10k.

Personally I would go with the level 4 coach. It will cost a lot less, and unless you have a very very good trainee that is worth it, the extra money you would save going with the level 4 coach would allow you to buy a much better player than the one you are going to train.

Season is about 14 weeks long.
For a level 6 trainer = 90000 x 14 = 1.26 million + initial signing bonus.
For a level 4 trainer = 10000 x 14 = 140k
This is not including the raise in salary as I'm just keeping it simple, but the raise in salary for the level 6 trainer will be more than the raise of salary for the level 4 trainer.
I'm not sure what a level 6 trainer with 90k salary goes for these days, but lets say it goes for 140k (just to keep it simple).
That means you will save 1 million dollars over a season if you go with the level 4 trainer.
The level 6 trainer will probably get you 4 or 5 weeks of extra training per season. 4 or 5 weeks is equivalent to about 3 pops (depending on what you are training).
So the question you have to ask yourself is whether you would rather have a million dollars, or those extra 3 pops per player.

agree with you, for a new team, lvl 4 trainer is the best option. But if you have a strong team,with good players(u21/NT), and you can afford him(trainer) a salary of 25-65k/week,these2-3-4-5 or 6 extra week's of training(nobody know exactly), are very important.Finally,I think it's up to everybody to choose what kind of trainer is better for they team:)

Thanks.
So let's say an extra 2 pops per season on a 6 coach over a 4 coach, that would mean the difference between Respectable & a Proficient.
Wouldn't that times the two + seasons of fast gains, based on 18 & 19 year olds,then a slow down from 20 to 25, mean you could sign a team of 18yos & devlopment them through to challenge for the top spots, as long as they are at least Respectable in the needed areas for their positions at the start (18yo)? I believe a player is not very trainable at 25 or above.
You make great points here & i'm just playing Devils Advocate to gets some additional input. I'm certainly not questioning what your saying.
Thanks for your time.


Last edited by ClipCap at 2/13/2010 5:58:49 PM

If you are trying to train him for the NT or U21 or just to be a really really good player, and you can afford it, then by all means go for the level 6. This might pay off in 3 or 4 seasons time. But if you want to win games now, then I think level 4 is better because you still get pops at a decent speed, and you get to keep an extra million. Do that over 2 seasons and you have 2 million. Then maybe sell your trainee for a few million and use that 4 million to buy a great player and suddenly you could be top of your league. If you have 3 really good training prospects then by all means get the level 6 and make sure you do 1 position training only.

I think the benefit of a 6 coach is being greatly exagerated, and if put correctly ( Its probably 1 or 2 in rare cases on pops) then the decision becomes a lot clearer.

Running the examples above, a 1 Million saving on coaches against Respectable to Profcient

1 Million will buy you a player with Prolific at the main areas.

I would suggest that a financial threshold is crossed for a clubs weekly profit which would then make it the right decison to get a 6 coach, but moving to early for a 6 may take you backwards in your overall progress as a franchise

i would even go below that, and maybe make one week out of it, and for me they seem to be unecononic , at least i don#t need him even when i got/have high quality trainees ;)

Maybe you could do it about patriotic isssues.

i get the feeling the competition levels at the very highest levels are so intense that one or two extra pops (per season!) could be worth under the right circumstances perhaps one-half point a game -- get a couple more of these advantages (say, game shape, free throws, stamina, the HCA) and you have the margin of victory. Us mortals are not operating on such an intense level -- the level where improvements are so tiny, so incremental. At least some of those who are bidding up the coaches are looking for an edge, a tiny edge, and money does not matter.

at least, that would be my guess.

Just buy a level 5 making about $20,000 a week..I got a level 5 making 16,600 a week and the signing bonus cost me 425,000....very doable