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144043.1
Date: 5/15/2010 10:11:51 PM
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For the past two games, I have tried to get my trainees 48+ minutes. I have put them at a position by their self with no backups. I have selected "strictly follow depth chart", and "let them play" in regards to foul trouble.

Despite this, for my last two games, I have not gotten 48+ minutes.

Can someone help me out as to how I can always assure that my trainee gets 48+ minutes in a game? This problem has just jumped out the past two games, and I have not had trouble prior.

What's wrong?

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144043.2 in reply to 144043.1
Date: 5/15/2010 11:20:18 PM
Aussie Pride
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You also have to make sure u have no unallocated players sitting on your bench which i notice you have. Make sure you put the trainee as Starter, Backup and Reserve. Other then that sometimes you just get unlucky.

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144043.3 in reply to 144043.2
Date: 5/15/2010 11:22:20 PM
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oh ok thanks. I didn't know you have to have everyone assigned.

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144043.4 in reply to 144043.3
Date: 5/16/2010 1:01:08 AM
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Ok I think you have it pretty sussed out now but as I just explained this to someone earlier in the NZ forum I will copy and paste it here for you. He wanted his Centre to get 48 minutes...

So you want to have a Centre play 48mins right? This is how you should have you team set up. (From the top of the page down)

- In the "Selected Players" box you should only have 9 players, not 12.

- Have your starters all selected.

- Select all your Backups and have your starting Centre as the Backup Centre. Leave all the reserves blank.

- For the tactics settings have "Substitutions: Strictly Follow Depth Chart" and "Foul Trouble: Let Them Play"

That should get your Centre 48mins if he doesn't foul out or get injured. Works for me every time. (Unless you have a player like LeftHook who likes to foul haha)


This should work even when you are way ahead in the 4th. (That was the problem he was having)

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144043.5 in reply to 144043.4
Date: 5/16/2010 1:11:12 AM
Aussie Pride
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I put them as Reserves as well but it probably doesn't make any difference if you do everthing else you listed.

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144043.6 in reply to 144043.5
Date: 5/16/2010 1:52:36 AM
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Yeah either way works as far as I know :)

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144043.7 in reply to 144043.5
Date: 5/16/2010 1:56:51 AM
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I am extremely frustrated with the minutes, and training requirements. It doesnt seem realistic to me to have to play a backup over a starter, to A) get the backup (trainee) his minutes, and prevent your starter from dying, and killing his game shape.

In my game tonight, my minute distribution was very strange...My PG, and SG played the entire game until the coach cleared the bench with about 50 seconds left in the game. So now, I have to fear that if that happens again, those two starters will get too many minutes for the week. Also, that kill my chances of getting my trainees their minutes.

I don't like this aspect of the game. I like my starters, and I want my starters to get starters minutes, have starter stats, and be able to track all of that stuff. So, in my game on Tuesday, I have already decided to start my backup SG, and bring my starting shooting guard off the bench. I haven't decided yet if I am going to do that with my PG. My PG is my favorite, and best player, and I hate not playing him. I got invovled in this game for the realism aspects...but to me, this is complete garbage. I can't imagine Coach of the Phoenix Suns telling his start Point Guard Steve Nash "Sorry Stevie, but we are going to have to bring you off the bench tomorrow, because we are just too afraid your backup isnt getting enough minutes. Now, we know you are the better player, but we can't waste this opportunity to play the backup his appropriate amount of minutes so he gets the best training possible. Now, you understand, don't you Steve Nash, 2 Time MVP.?"

Ohhh well, maybe I am too new to rant...but with this lack of realism, I am afraid I may lose my passion for this game.

From: Skyrider

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144043.8 in reply to 144043.7
Date: 5/16/2010 11:11:25 AM
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That is more or less realism, just like in NBA if you choose to just run your starters then the bench guys will not develop. Also that is why we have scrimmages to run your Backups as starters when it doesn't matter. You can still player your PG as starter in the 2 regular games with a backup to watch his minutes, and he will get the training minutes. Then run your backup full 48 in the scrimmage.

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144043.9 in reply to 144043.8
Date: 5/16/2010 1:25:55 PM
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Sorry, but i have to disagree. The scenario as I presented is not anywhere close to realism. And if I could play my starters in the regular games, and then my backups in the scrimmage...I would love that! In real life, you have practices, trainers, drills, B leagues, specific coaches etc to work with guys who might not get a single minute of game time.

What I am frustrated about, is that in this last game, my starters played all buy one minute of the game. if I start them again, I risk this happening again, and my starters will be at 94 minutes for the week, and my backups will be at 2 minutes each for the week. Now, I if that happens...I have hurt the game shape of my starters, and am forced to play my backups the entire scrimmage with no backup so they get their 48 minutes. In that scenario I have two exhausted PGs, and only 2 trainees with significant minutes. If this were real life, and real substituation patterns were happening...My starters would get 35-40 minutes...and my backups would get 8-13 minutes a game. IF this happened, I would end up with my starters at 70-80 which is probably still too many minutes, and my backups 16-26 after two games. In this scneario I could start the 26 minute guy, and play another trainee with no backup. So I'd end the week with two guys 70-80, two more guys 48+, and one more guy 10-20 minutes.

Again, there is no scenario that is realistic to me in which I need to be concerned that playing my starters is a bad thing.

From: Kukoc

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144043.10 in reply to 144043.9
Date: 5/16/2010 4:57:57 PM
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Perhaps you should get starters with lower stamina, get better backups or get good enough starters to constantly blow out your opponents, play faster tactics. You can always play your backups in scrimmage for 48 minutes if it goes to that. Scrimmage result do not matter.

From: Jason

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144043.11 in reply to 144043.10
Date: 5/16/2010 5:21:22 PM
Arizona Desert Storm
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With asll due respect....really? You are suggesting that i need starters who dont have decent stamina? That is crazy. Again, my gripe is about how unrealstic this aspect of the game is. You can give me all the suggestions in the world, the fact is, NONE of them will simulate how real games go. There is no reason through normal game play that my starters shouldnt play around 38 minutes a game, give or take a few depending on game situations, and have the backups play the rest.

And if i have starters with great stamina, then they play the whole game, and that pretty much eliminates them from playing in the 2nd league game for the week, as anything but a backup. In this past game, my 21 year old PG set a personal record for points in a game (32) assists in a game (14) and minutes in a game (47)...his reward? He gets benched for the our next game....yeap, yeah that seems pretty realistic to me.