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Date: 5/16/2010 10:47:03 AM
TrenseRI
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Some users wanted to know reasons for foul trouble - here they are (courtesy of BB-Charles):

- Offensive settings of each team. If you take jump shots while they pound the ball inside, they're likely to get to the line more often.
- Defensive ability. Players who can defend properly have a tendency to do so rather than foul.
- Physicality, which affects things in both directions. If you have a bunch of physical players, playing inside tactics will also result in their getting to the line more often. Similarly, opposing physical players will both commit and draw more fouls.
- End of game tactics; if you're down late, your team might commit as many as 10 fouls in the last minute of the game trying to give your team a chance.

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144081.2 in reply to 144081.1
Date: 5/16/2010 11:08:50 AM
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- Physicality, which affects things in both directions. If you have a bunch of physical players, playing inside tactics will also result in their getting to the line more often. Similarly, opposing physical players will both commit and draw more fouls.


?

Where is the trait of Physicality defined in the rules?

Are there players who are Wimps? Where is Wimpiness defined in the rules?


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144081.3 in reply to 144081.2
Date: 5/16/2010 1:00:27 PM
Cassville Yuck
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It would appear you are looking for a black/white interpretation of physicality when in fact it is being used as an adjective to describe the traits and characteristics of said players on said team. The mystery of this game is what makes it so great. Just enough information is provided for functional operation and the rest is left for you to figure out and you may never get a conclusive answer. I find it humorous that tren posts a logical well thought out interpretation and you demand evidence of existence within the rules when clearly there is so much more to this game than what is listed within the rules. If you have difficulty grasping that concept, then the location of definition of "physicality" is the least of your concerns. Allow the game to be infinite and broad and you will enjoy it a lot more. Not a single statement I made in this post are fact, nor will you find it "in the rules", it is just how I feel. Some of the facets of this game are genius, especially the non disclosure of certain information. That allows the game to hide any flaws with out angering the customer base. Take for instance sub levels. You can't see exactly where a player is at for sub level. I have played games where you can. It adds a whole dimension of mystery to the game. If you demand total black/white, then the product becomes black/white and everything becomes cookie cutter instead of complete variance. Enjoy the game, it is truly great.

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144081.4 in reply to 144081.3
Date: 5/16/2010 3:36:02 PM
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Apparently you do not understand the concept of random results. Just because you think something is true, does not make it so.

There are dozens of posts that appear 'logical and well thought out' that have no basis in fact whatsoever, and often contradict one another. By calling upon these posters to document their opinions I am trying to learn. If that offends you, that is your problem.

I will continue to ask for evidence.




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144081.5 in reply to 144081.4
Date: 5/16/2010 4:11:28 PM
Cassville Yuck
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You would be correct in stating that I do not understand the concept of random results. If I did they would not be random or I would be an oracle. I was merely reminding you and everyone else that enjoys this game that full disclosure does not and will not exist. Calling out well respected poster like tren in the juvenille way you did is offensive, not the questions you asked. Stating the offensive action as being my problem is you not taking responsibility for your actions. Try being more constructive than destructive, respect the community, and instead of demanding proof in the following thread; take the the information that has been provided and research yourself. It wasn't stated as absolute fact. The community owes you nothing, so receive what you get with open arms, and consider the quest for knowledge an adventure. Relax.

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144081.6 in reply to 144081.4
Date: 5/16/2010 8:33:17 PM
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I will continue to ask for evidence.




I don't think you'll find anything more conclusive than the words of the creator of this game
I have a hunch he knows what he's talking about ;)

"BuzzerBeater, the best simulation game of real market economy" (with a cool live basket viewer).
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144081.8 in reply to 144081.7
Date: 5/16/2010 9:41:16 PM
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There is a physicality attribute. This was explained in the original post under the Physicality section.

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144081.9 in reply to 144081.8
Date: 5/16/2010 9:54:15 PM
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Naker is correct (34446.6). This information has been around for a while. Remember the Manual is a guide it is meant to start people off and be a quick reference. Most of the game needs to be learned through experience and discussing with older managers their experiences.

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144081.10 in reply to 144081.1
Date: 5/16/2010 10:24:19 PM
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- Offensive settings of each team. If you take jump shots while they pound the ball inside, they're likely to get to the line more often.


I've read this sentence a few times now and am still struggling to get my head around it. I don't expect a run-through but can someone confirm if I am at least thinking in the right direction!

If my team is taking a lot of Jumpshots (ie. I play Motion or something similar) and they 'pound' the ball inside (they go Look Inside/Low Post) they will get more FT's.....

Is that simply because more fouls occur in the paint or because you are likely to be less physical when trying to block a 3point attempt?

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144081.11 in reply to 144081.10
Date: 5/16/2010 10:29:08 PM
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I read that over and over as well and still am not sure what it means.
But I think it means that playing inside tactics draws more fouls because that's where more fouls generally occur.