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147521.1
Date: 6/20/2010 8:24:49 PM
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If the other team is playing man to man, would playing a shooting guard at center, and choosing motion or run and gun, get the opposing center fouled out pretty quickly? I was thinking about doing this if my opponent had a huge advantage at pf/c, and I wanted to get one of the players fouled out. Has anyone tried anything similar to this before?

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147521.2 in reply to 147521.1
Date: 6/20/2010 9:13:24 PM
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It will probably get your guard fouled out pretty quickly.

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147521.3 in reply to 147521.2
Date: 6/20/2010 9:39:37 PM
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From offensive fouls? He wouldn't be playing center on defense.

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147521.4 in reply to 147521.1
Date: 6/21/2010 12:00:11 AM
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I like the idea of doing this.
You would probably need a SG thats really good at Jump Shot and Driving though.

These are the sorts of matchup problems we need more in BuzzerBeater.

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147521.5 in reply to 147521.1
Date: 6/21/2010 1:46:52 AM
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I have had some luck with Look Inside for drawing fouls, if the c/pf are klutzes (averaging nearly 3 fouls a game). Let us know how your experiment works out -- i've been wondering about similar tactics myself (which may be a sign you are way off base).

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147521.6 in reply to 147521.1
Date: 6/21/2010 3:47:46 AM
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he won't take much shots, where the c could foul and even those one won't be high percentage shot, even when the c has low OD ;)(especially when you palay then at C)

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147521.7 in reply to 147521.6
Date: 6/21/2010 9:31:53 AM
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Yeah I've seen that attempted before, doesn't work a all, just leaves the guard with a pathetic game rating.

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147521.8 in reply to 147521.7
Date: 6/21/2010 3:08:41 PM
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Even in a run and gun or motion your centre still takes most of his shots from inside and the difference between the IS of the guard and ID of the opposing centre (not to mention blocking) will just make your undersized centre useless. Not to mention the almost complete lack of offensive rebounds you'd produce. It's not like your SG/C will be taking the opposing big man off the dribble every possession, instead he'll try to post up a lot. (Just like when you play a big man at guard and he doesn't just post up every possession).

Powerforwards take more midrange jump shots in outside offenses so you might have some success scoring/improving flow but playing a guard or SF with high inside scoring at PF, but I don't think it will generate a ton of fouls.


I am planning on crossing training my PG at C a few weeks this season so if this topic comes up again I should be able to provide some thoughts about doing this at a high(ish) level against high salary centres.

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147521.9 in reply to 147521.8
Date: 6/22/2010 3:27:57 AM
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Thanks for all the replies. I guess that, unfortunately, I have to have my players react to the game engine, rather than have the game engine react to my players. Theoretically, the shooting guard (playing at center), with a legendary jump shot should get an atrocious outside defender in foul trouble immediately, if the opponent were playing man-to-man, but if the game engine forces that shooting guard turned center to take mainly inside shots, then the advantage is nullified, and there's even a disadvantage. I still may experiment in the future, but I'd probably just be better off playing within the known confines of the game engine for now

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147521.10 in reply to 147521.9
Date: 6/22/2010 3:58:00 AM
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(22542648) here's sg playing c on run and gun offense. 35 points... 4.5 rating vs opponent 8.0. of course we do not know what inside skills does sg have. but he attempted five 3pointers and 3 of them scored, so i assume he shot from distance more than from inside.