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158094.2 in reply to 158094.1
Date: 9/28/2010 4:47:39 AM
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if this is indeed true, the common assumption that OD has to be trained earlier than other skills had it exactly the wrong way around - intriguing.

basically, this means that Handling, Driving, and JS should be trained first for guards, and OD, JR and Passing later. But what are the consequences for the training of Big Men?

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Date: 9/28/2010 5:17:21 AM
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mmmh, i still think it's better to train first OD than the others, before the "age effect" comes in, because we still don't know how much this elastic effect speeds up other skills training.

If the advantage of elastic effect is "eclipsed" by the older age/late training, then it's pretty useless IMHO.

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Date: 9/28/2010 5:27:11 AM
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mmmh, i still think it's better to train first OD than the others, before the "age effect" comes in, because we still don't know how much this elastic effect speeds up other skills training.


which age effect affects OD more then any other skill?

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Date: 9/28/2010 6:35:08 AM
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For me, that's completely a fact, now.
Especially the fact that secondaries in training give us many information about it.

Some french trainers have tried to train first 1v1 for tall guards in order to train OD more quickly on a second time.
It gave Maxime Lenoir.

Soustre was not trained into passing before last training seasons. When he was trained there, it became very quick.

in Belgium, several managers consider that JR can be trained more quickly by waiting several season if JS-DR and the rest is trained high enough before.



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Date: 9/28/2010 7:09:18 AM
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As I've stated before the so called "age effect" isn't that big for at least 22yo who are around 180cm tall. My 183cm sg has been popping at od every 2 weeks of od training.


the age effect would be only intresting, when it have a different size for the skills but when training takes 10% longer with each year, you don't get better results if you train the slow things first.

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Date: 9/28/2010 7:15:09 AM
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mmmh, i still think it's better to train first OD than the others, before the "age effect" comes in, because we still don't know how much this elastic effect speeds up other skills training.


which age effect affects OD more then any other skill?


i meant "those skill that are faster than OD".

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Date: 9/28/2010 7:16:05 AM
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mmmh, i still think it's better to train first OD than the others, before the "age effect" comes in, because we still don't know how much this elastic effect speeds up other skills training.


which age effect affects OD more then any other skill?


i meant "those skill that are faster than OD".


and what difference did that make when training runs x percent slower?