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These 2 players are the future of my team. I want the to both eventually reach their soft cap. Player 1 I want to make into a Small forward Player 2 I want to make Into a PG. Could anyone give me a training plan of how to train these two young studs together, and not Getting downrated to Div. 5 at the same time? I would not like to go back to DIV. V, because I was 22-0 last season.

Sante Pagnozzi (14749524)
Power Forward

Weekly salary: $ 9 502

DMI: 23800
Age: 19
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: star
Game Shape: respectable

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: pitiful
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: awful ↑
Driving: awful ↑ Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: strong Inside Def.: proficient
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: strong
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: atrocious

Experience: atrocious

Player 2

Jarvis Carlson (16443435)
Small Forward

Weekly salary: $ 4 291

DMI: 10600
Age: 18
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: respectable

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: average Handling: respectable
Driving: average Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: inept Free Throw: respectable

Experience: atrocious

just train them in guard skills, with a rotation somewhat as follows:

1 week OD
1 week DV
1 week PA
1 week OD
1 week JR
1 week HA

rinse and repeat, until they reach the skills you want them to reach. The first one will cap sooner; train Passing, Jump Range and OD for the second one with new guard trainees once that happens.

I don't think you need to make 2 exact thread. This thread should be closed and should just follow the other one.
I wouldn't do what Mathcorejay said. SF with a pitiful JR is not good and since JR takes the longest closely followed by OD, you need to train those first.

I think it depends what kind of an SF you want. An SF with inept JR can be sufficient for balanced and inside-focused tactics in low leagues, but will clearly be outclassed when forced to play outside focused tactics. Since his IS was already trained to strong, and will rise further with Driving training (not much, but perhaps to proficient), I guess he wants this player to focus on his inside attack for now. But for that to work, he needs to work on the player's driving, which is quite low for an SF, so that has more priority for now.

Last edited by Mathcorejay at 10/11/2010 9:14:42 AM

My thinking was that player A already have decent inside skills and since his outside skills aren't as good as his inside skills, he should focus on training the outside skills. The type of shots SF takes changes depending on the tactics but regardless, I think JR is pretty imprtant for a SF and also he might eventually train JR and OF, but since they're the slowest, he should train those now and move onto driving, passing etc, which are relatively quick to train.

Basically, there is a theory that says that the opposite is true - that one should train the quick skills first to benefit from the elastic effect when training the slow ones. I'm quite convinced by that one, so Driving should come first in my book. But yes, this is a matter of taste.

I agree on the importance of OD, though. a young player doesn't need to be an offensive stud in every respect, but should be able to hold his own on the defense to avoid matchup problems on defense.

Well at the end of the day, it's up to him to decide but yours and my advice are both correct I guess. I think advice from some more experienced players could give him more choice of what to train first, etc.

If I were to Train OD for the rest of the season, (the first 2 weeks I have been training 1v.1,) will my players benefit from that more than if I train them with 1V1? Should I train both of those players OD up to profalic/sensational, and then work on 1V1 for both of them for the remainder of the season, and then do passing and JR the coming season? Or do you think a player with star potential would be capped my then.

I read somewhere that it is better if you train your gaurd's OD first so that it does not take as long. Is this true? Also does anyone have suggested skills for a small forward that has reached his soft cap?

Well, this was the hypothesis for a long time, but it has become questionable if this is indeed true. However, the benefits of early OD training (no defensive matchup problems) are still quite clear, so training OD first seems like a good choice.

I have played around with the salary calculator and found that for an outside focused star potential SF with your guy's starting skills, star potential will be reached around the following point which I would target:

JS 11 JR 9
OD 13 HN 9
DR 11 PA 9
IS 9 ID 10
RB 7 BL 8

perhaps a little later, but from there on the cap can be expected. Just train that far, and then from there until training slows down considerably.

Last edited by Mathcorejay at 10/11/2010 12:07:41 PM

That Is very unfortunate. Thank you for this information. Do you think that a starting SF with those skills will be good enough to compete in divisions 3, 2, or even 1, or will division 4 be the only place where he is actually ever going to be a great player.

He will be able to hold his own in 3rd tier leagues. He won't be your franchise player beyond that point, though.