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17423.1
Date: 2/27/2008 11:10:26 AM
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Hy there... I've got a simple question: which skills are needed to hit a threepointshot? In my mind that should be Jumpshot and Jumprange. So I've got a SG with Jump Shot: proficient and Jump Range: strong, I play in german 3rd league (last year 4th) and this means against "not so good" defenders. In my mind he should shoot a good % more than 30% but he's shooting 24%. If you think his other skills are bad, his driving is proficient too but handling is just average. So why isn't he hitting that 3 pointshot?

(Besides his FG% is just 35% I already had a thread about that one and it seems to be that way due to his lack of inside shot)

Besides a PG of mine with average Jump Shot and average Jumprange is hitting 30% of his 3s and 45% of his fielgoalattempts... but his driving is awful!

explanation: please!

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17423.2 in reply to 17423.1
Date: 2/27/2008 11:42:16 AM
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it may be that the defenses that you are up against have a pretty good outside defense. or nailing three-pointers might just require higher JS and JR...

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17423.3 in reply to 17423.2
Date: 2/27/2008 11:46:41 AM
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sometimes I go up against botteams, I doubt that their def is pretty good or sometimes one plays a 2-3 zone against me, shooting doesn't get better...

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17423.4 in reply to 17423.3
Date: 2/27/2008 11:52:58 AM
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if you look at it from a real life perspective the best 3-point shooters in the NBA are generally 40%. the fact that your guy is shooting 24% shouldn't be too alarming since percentages will fluctuate game to game. it might be that later in the season he starts to hit a good deal of 3-pointers and brings up his percentage. but seeing as how the best players in the world hope to hit just 40% i would assume that players in this game would require higher skills in order to hit those shots on a consistent basis. centers in this game have the same problem sometimes. one of my players has a proficient inside scoring, but he hardly ever scores as his ppg is around 13. until you hit higher levels it should be expected that the frequency of shots made would be sporadic.

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17423.5 in reply to 17423.4
Date: 2/27/2008 12:05:21 PM
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check this guy he got 44% thats very good i think (2659414)
probably there is even better ones in the game.


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17423.6 in reply to 17423.4
Date: 2/27/2008 12:30:06 PM
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Kapono shoots over 50% :P and it depends on league and def, Not only the best players in the world shoot 40% I think that there are also some 2nd league players doing so, at least shooting 30% and that even in very bad leagues ;)

@CItB: due to his salary I highly doubt that his skills are close to those of my player ;)

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17423.7 in reply to 17423.6
Date: 2/27/2008 12:39:33 PM
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it is true that kapono is shooting 50%, but he's only averaging about 8ppg. traditional 3-point shooters will put up a lot more than what he has (99 attempts). ray allen (38%) and jason richardson (41%) have put up over 3 times the amount of 3s as kapono.

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17423.8 in reply to 17423.1
Date: 2/27/2008 12:54:18 PM
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A couple of points to remember:

Firstly, the ME is pretty sophisticated, so it could be the case that in-game your opponents are adjusting their defence to cover your SG more tightly than your PG.

Secondly, you can't know how good the guy covering him is.

Thirdly, the way games like this work means that players are regularly afflicted by streaks, or so it seems. Chances are, in a few games your SG could be burning hot.

Anyway, just to compare how unpredictable the situation is, my worst outside shooter (mediocre JS, inept jump range) is going along at a remarkable 45% from deep (5-11) and by best outside shooter (strong JS, average JR) is going along at 35% (18-52).

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17423.9 in reply to 17423.8
Date: 2/27/2008 12:57:45 PM
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i suppose the one thing to expect on a consistent basis from these types of players is that they will throw it up no matter what (i.e. your 35% 18-52) as opposed to players who pretty much suck at it (i.e. med. JS & in. JR w/only 11 att.)

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17423.10 in reply to 17423.9
Date: 2/27/2008 1:14:01 PM
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Yes. Sample size does distort the data somewhat, but it does suggest that the poorer shooters are apparently more open than the good shooters.

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17423.11 in reply to 17423.10
Date: 2/27/2008 1:17:18 PM
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Yes. Sample size does distort the data somewhat, but it does suggest that the poorer shooters are apparently more open than the good shooters.


of course poorer shooters are open more. that just goes to an example of simple playground basketball. you don't guard the crappy shooter until he proves he can nail the shot on a consistent basis...it's part defense strategy and part head trip. though i wonder how the ME deals with a hot shooter. even if the shooter has bad skill ratings, but gets hot in the game will the defense put more pressure on that player?