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From: Spade
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Date: 4/27/2011 4:49:38 PM
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hey I just wanted to get everyone's opinion and experience with either low post or look inside offense. Who takes the most shots? do the perimeter guys take a lot of 3s and jumpshots? Which is better of the 2? And anything else you guys have on these 2 offenses.

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183204.2 in reply to 183204.1
Date: 4/27/2011 4:55:04 PM
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In both offenses, the C and PF do take the most shots. With LI, you'll have your guards trying to score inside quite a bit, too. In LP, on the other hand, the guards won't take shots unless it's desperate. Neither tactic gives you many 3s or Jumpers, LI perhaps a little more, but it's really not that much.

Which one is better depends on your supporting cast. If your SF can score inside, and your guards are good drivers, go for LI. If your guards are willing and able to pass the ball, LP might be the right offense for you.

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183204.3 in reply to 183204.2
Date: 4/27/2011 5:09:40 PM
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I'm not totally agree with the comments on LI.
I believe with LI, most shots are located at the SF and PF spot.

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183204.4 in reply to 183204.2
Date: 4/27/2011 6:06:32 PM
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In your opinion are these tactics viable if your guards have very bad inside shot but very high driving?

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183204.5 in reply to 183204.4
Date: 4/27/2011 6:10:57 PM
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LI worked for me wth a SG like that, but would have been better with more IS from my guards. My SG shot an abysmal 35% from the field that season... well, his main task was on the defensive end, but still.

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Date: 4/27/2011 6:27:47 PM
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I have a guard that has tremendous driving and awful IS i have played him at both SF and SG and he cant make an inside shot to save his life. He takes quite a few because of the driving but he rarely connects. He does draw a couple fouls here and there so i guess there is some upside haha.

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183204.7 in reply to 183204.1
Date: 4/27/2011 8:00:22 PM
Dodor Utd
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I played LI in my last game. This is what the shot distribution was:
C - 22 attempts
PF - 25 attempts
SF - 20 attempts
SG - 11 attempts
PG - 15 attempts
This is just one game, but it clearly shows the offense is mainly carried out by C and PF, and to some extent SF.
Also worth mentioning is that a lot of my guards shot attempts were inside shots (lay ups and dunks). So it helps if your guards have high IS.

From: Spade

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183204.8 in reply to 183204.7
Date: 4/27/2011 8:24:21 PM
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thanks guys very helpful :)

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183204.9 in reply to 183204.8
Date: 4/27/2011 9:41:23 PM
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Also just a general comment about these tactics and your players.

Ive played low-post for the last few seasons, where my C and PF were the 'best' players in my team. Recently i acquired two excellent guards, who are now the best players in my team. This has changed the ratio of shots and the way that the low-post offence works.

So my point being, that, if you have awesome guards, and mediocre C/PF and you play low post, you may find that your guards will still take more shots, outside and inside.

In other words, the offence that you set, doesnt neccassarily force the game engine to use those players. If those players involved in that offence are crapola, then the game engine will still try to find the best shot, through other players. It also suggests, that maybe you shouldnt be using that offence!


From: iwen
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183204.10 in reply to 183204.9
Date: 4/28/2011 8:47:12 AM
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Works both ways too.

Sometimes the standard of opposition improves and the big men you come against are better, so it's harder for your bigs to make a shot over them, so the defer back to the guards who are forced to take last second 'hero' shots.

Also, the guard talent could also be better, so the guards have a tough time passing inside... so they jack it up instead..

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183204.11 in reply to 183204.10
Date: 4/28/2011 11:10:43 AM
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So very true, i saw that in my last league game, where i usedf low post. So my point gaurd who has strong passing, had to take unecessary three point shots. If you have strong passing or higher and you use look inside or low post, and if your opponents big men don't have better inside def than your big men's inside scoring. Then your strongest passers should get plenty of assists.