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I know the game ratings are only rough estimates of a team's ability, but I still find it difficult to accept losses like this: (36159331)

According to the ratings, my team was superior in IS, ID and Reb and got absolutely trounced. I expected to lose, but not like that. I can think of two possible explanations. Either the 2-3 defense doesn't work as well as the ratings indicate or the fact that I had the worst player on the court for most of the game (SG who played 44 minutes) meant a great deal more than was reflected in the team ratings.

Note: when I look at the player ratings for the game, the outcome of the game makes a lot more sense. I was outclassed at C, SG and PG, while having no advantage at SF/PF. Of course, the player ratings are affected by the results of the game (stats), but those results are determined by the abilities of the players (which are supposedly reflected in the ratings). So ....

Last edited by Dmitri at 9/4/2011 12:46:48 PM

but you shouldn't forget that also the other ratings count, you lost outside shooting and especially the Outside defence by a big margin. Also the homecourt comes into play, which isn't reflected in the rating.

The winning team had the better players rating, homecourt and the better team ratings(in my eyes).

I thought homecourt was included in the ratings (although maybe not completely). The OD margin was huge, as you say, but since both teams went Look Inside, I figure that didn't matter too much. That said, it was significant that he stole the ball more than I did and forced my SF into 8 TO's.

The winning team was better, but I ascribe the degree of victory to random (or unknown) factors. Perhaps my guys just had an off night ... or, more precisely, one really bad quarter. Thx for the feedback

Outside Defense not only reflects the ability (or inability) to stop the opponent from scoring, but only is a big part of playing passing lanes and stopping opponnents ball movement.

Your bad bad OD results in your opponent getting plenty of "easy looks", and you find that in the box by looking at his assist rates. If you cannot stop him from finding open guys by playing "some" OD, the chance of him outscoring you even in Look Inside is pretty high. Actually, LI depends alot on his playmakers beeing able to get the ball where it belongs. It flourishes from great passing on the small positions - and in conclusion - also flourishes if you do not object that by playing at least some OD.

That´s the key people keep missing when criticizing the 2-3 zone. 2-3 Zone still requires your guys to do something against opponents dishing at will and finding all the open guys. So you should only choose that option if your guards can somehow put some pressure on the Floor Generals, or you will suffer big time.

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 9/4/2011 4:04:27 PM

Away team - 107 bbstats (6,60 in BuzzerControl scale). Average matchups (PG+SG+SF+PF+C)/5 = 82,9.
Home team - 115 bbstats (7,06 in BuzzerControl scale). Average matchups (PG+SG+SF+PF+C)/5 = 98,1.
Additionaly Home Court Advantage. And match ratings of home players are better too.
For me these stats means easy win for home team.
And final result is obviously correct.

Lots of good feedback. Thx

One question regarding this comment:

That´s the key people keep missing when criticizing the 2-3 zone. 2-3 Zone still requires your guys to do something against opponents dishing at will and finding all the open guys. So you should only choose that option if your guards can somehow put some pressure on the Floor Generals, or you will suffer big time.

--How do you put pressure on the "Floor Generals" in a 2-3? Simply by having guards with really good OD?

All the above except you didn't lose the rebounds.

You collected 34 rbs out of 43 under your basket, roughly 79%.
Your opponent collected 44 rbs out of 57 on his end, roughly 77%.

There were more balls to grab on his end because your team missed more.

because i am most likely the most famous team stating that 2-3 works, my guards haven't great OD comparing with the opposition maybe even below average but besides my starting centers myy big guys have good values in OD too.