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196334.1
Date: 9/12/2011 5:36:53 PM
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I think that the allstar voting couls be done a lot better. One example of how it is terrible is that my SG with 53k salary, (now est at 65k) is backing up someone who has 15 k salary. he is beating him in almolst every stat. and has an average rating higher than his. another example is my SF. Sante Pagnozzi. He has 21k salary now, (estimated to be around 30k) and is backing up someone with 12 k salary. and whenever I play the team with those players, they get killed, while I kill them. Also, there is a PF voted fo the allstar team with 5 k salary. both of my starting ig men are estimated to be over 15k, one of them over 20k, and they did not get voted to the team.

Im not saying that they should have made the team (and i dont care if they do or not), only that the voting should be better. I dont care about how many intangibles (age, GS, EX....) a 65k player isn't going to get beaten by a 15k player. (unless his GS is under average.)

Last edited by shoe lover at 9/12/2011 5:37:56 PM

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196334.2 in reply to 196334.1
Date: 9/12/2011 5:54:19 PM
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1 on 1 I don't know but this is game (38899471) where a team with players salary 3k - 6k beating guy with C who has 120k salary (rest of the players also (20k-78k), both Normal effort.

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196334.3 in reply to 196334.1
Date: 9/12/2011 7:43:30 PM
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Players that are ball hogs, tend to get more votes even know they are not the best. I think the voting should factor in rating. The points leader is always a starter and this player tends to have low GS and passing. Allstar week needs to be improved overall.

From: Urudy

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196334.4 in reply to 196334.3
Date: 9/12/2011 10:23:03 PM
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Yes indeed your guard should at least be an allstar, if not MVP. Your team has improved to an excellent record and he is the best player on your team. I would be mad if he doesn't beat out Amidani for Mvp. The only reason that Amidani may beat out Jarvis for Mvp is due to the fact that his team plays at such a drastically accelerated pace. Well, I hope that Jarvis gets Myp for you this season to make up for this sad mistake, indeed Amidani is great, but I still feel Jarvis is much more deserving of the starting spot.

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196334.6 in reply to 196334.1
Date: 9/12/2011 10:43:51 PM
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I have to agree. There is a player in the Big 8, who is the Leading Scorer (20.8) and Rebounder (13.8), of the Big 8, along with playing for a playoff contender. Yet he did not even make a back-up roll. He lost out at his position, by a player that only played 1 game in our league, against the 7th place team in the Great 8. Really? That is messed up.

Hell the starting PG, for the Big 8, is under 3k salary. He got 4k more votes, then the player I mentioned. Did I mention his team is a bot team? That is a travesty.

In my opinion, if your team is not above .500, you would have to put up phenomenal numbers to get in. Especially if your team is 5 games or more under .500.

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196334.7 in reply to 196334.1
Date: 9/12/2011 11:13:30 PM
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Sorry Dabulls
gotta disagree with you
your player is voted on at PG
His avg more than 10 assists per game
your around 3
what do you want in a PG?
And at SF I think that guy also beats yours
Salaries don't mean a damn thing in anything
other than would they SHOULD do...not what they've done overall

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196334.8 in reply to 196334.7
Date: 9/13/2011 10:16:32 AM
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In defense of dabulls, the other pg is playing on a team that often plays a fast offense and even runs Full court defense for an even faster pace. Sure the other player is averaging more assists and steals, but if you take out the rapid pace the difference wouldn't be as great. In fact, if dabulls played at the same pace, then assists,TO and FT% would be the only stats that Amidani would have an advantage in. From experience Jarvis plays better defense and is clearly a better scoring option. Passing isn't the only thing a pg has to do, often they are needed to make clutch shots, carry a team and shut down an opposing player. In all of those cases Jarvis is better. Even his better rebounding can make a difference (rebounding for a pg is a rare commodity).

Jarvis is part of an offense where he is not only the best scoring option, but often times- the primary one in the patient offense which has been run. He fits into an offense where he scores more and passes less for the better of the team. In addition to that, he has the ball in his hands much more often and has more TO as a result (I admit better passing/handling could help this). While his lower passing is definitely a knock, it is not the only factor to define a G or PG for that matter. On top of that, Dabulls have done better as a team up to this point which should tip the scales in his favor. In fact, that should be one of the biggest factors in allstar and MVP voting.

From: strilfe

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196334.9 in reply to 196334.8
Date: 9/13/2011 10:41:18 AM
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I have 3 players on the all star and the one that's probably the best, Juan de Dios Varallo, didn't make it for only 2000 votes.

As any all star, there´s a debate and someone who isn't happy, but I don't care that much.

Besides, if rotate your players or switch the position, you'll hurt the hances for the all star but you'll be in better position for the PO. And that's important.

Bottom line: I don't care about improving the all star, it's oky the way it is and if you have any suggestion, the BBs will consider it.

From: CrazyEye

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196334.10 in reply to 196334.8
Date: 9/13/2011 11:30:24 AM
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Defense bonus and bonus for boring setplay? Is this really was allstar voting are about?

I didnt see ben wallace in the asd, i did see players like blake griffin domniate the vote while players like nowitzky are lucky that there is a coach choiche. I even see yao ming lected without even playing, and many houston players get vote because they play in a popular team (in china)

Thats asd guys with impressive stats and highlight reels get voted not necessary the best players.

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196334.11 in reply to 196334.10
Date: 9/13/2011 11:45:34 AM
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Definitely, all star doesn't mean best players (vince carter, hey, we are talking about you) but the fans most like to see.-