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Date: 10/14/2011 11:48:16 AM
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Stern doubts Christmas games if no deal Tuesday

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ai0piboXWjkdHWLow4r...

By BRIAN MAHONEY, AP Basketball Writer 10 hours, 45 minutes ago

NEW YORK (AP)—Commissioner David Stern said his “gut” tells him there will be no NBA basketball on Christmas without a labor agreement by Tuesday.

That day, when owners and players are scheduled to meet with a federal mediator, is a “really big deal,” he added.

Owners will then open two days of board meetings Wednesday, and without an agreement to bring them, Stern believes further cancellations are coming.
Derek Fisher fears the NBA season won't start on time after the latest setback in labor negotiations.
(AP)

“Right now, Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday, just before my owners come into town, having brought in the labor relations committee and Billy (Hunter) having brought in his executive committee, it’s time to make the deal,” Stern said Thursday. “If we don’t make it on Tuesday, my gut—this is not in my official capacity of canceling games—but my gut is that we won’t be playing on Christmas Day.”

Stern canceled the first two weeks of the regular season on Monday when the sides couldn’t reach a deal before a deadline he had set.

Christmas is traditionally the first big day of the NBA season. This year’s three-game schedule features the NBA finals rematch between the Dallas Mavericks and Miami Heat.

The sides will need to act quickly to save it. The talks have stalled over the structure of the salary cap system and the division of revenues between owners and players.

They will meet Tuesday with George Cohen, the same mediator who tried to resolve the NFL’s labor dispute months before it eventually ended.

Asked if Cohen had the ability to move the sides toward a deal, Stern said: “I’m hoping he does because I think that if we don’t make a deal by the time my owners meetings come in Wednesday and Thursday, after we’ve met with the mediator on Monday and then met with each other on Tuesday, then I despair.

“Because we will have lost two weeks for sure on our way to losing more games, offers will get worse, possibly on both sides, and the deal’s going to slip away from us, as may the season,” he added. “So this is the time to make a deal.”

In a separate interview with NBA TV, Stern said he thought one was in reach Monday. The sides met for more than 12 hours over two days before talks broke down, and he says despite frequent meetings lately that “we aren’t making any progress.”

“How many times does it pay to keep meeting, and to have the same things thrown back at you?” Stern said. “We’re ready to sit down and make a deal. I don’t believe that the union is. Hopefully by Tuesday, aided by the mediator, they’ll be ready to make a deal. Certainly, I’ll bring my owners ready to make a deal.”

Hunter is meeting with players on Friday in Los Angeles. The union has balked at owners’ proposal to replace their hard salary cap plan by making the luxury tax much more punitive. Players believe it would become such a deterrent to spending that it would essentially work as a hard cap.

The sides also have to decide how to divide up about $4 billion in annual revenues. Players were guaranteed 57 percent of basketball-related income in the previous collective bargaining agreement and have proposed lowering it to 53 percent. Owners are seeking the same 53-47 split in their favor.

The parties have discussed a 50-50 split, which the players rejected. In the radio interview, Stern repeated a claim he made Monday that the original discussion of an even split was initiated by the players.

They also are still clashing over the length of the agreement, with players not wanting to go beyond six years and owners seeking a 10-year deal but offering the players an opt-out after seven. Player contract lengths, luxury tax payments and the use of spending exceptions are among the other big items remaining.

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198475.2 in reply to 198475.1
Date: 10/14/2011 11:52:45 AM
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Like we couldn't have Christmas without basketball...or in this case NBA basketball!

Honestly, most people aren't that interested in the regular season (see mediocre TV ratings) and I don't really tune in until the playoffs.


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198475.3 in reply to 198475.2
Date: 10/14/2011 12:36:25 PM
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Same here. I have been catching up on my Hockey knowledge, looks like this winter will be a hockey winter for me :-}

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198475.4 in reply to 198475.2
Date: 10/15/2011 1:33:57 AM
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so,where is your posting catch?

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198475.5 in reply to 198475.4
Date: 10/15/2011 1:47:26 AM
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Unlike a potential football strike, which I think might of had a dramatic impact on many peoples weekends, I don't think a few weeks/months without the NBA would really impact too many folks -- maybe Jack Nickelson, but are those other celebs really basketball fans.

That said, I know there are those that say they'll never go back to the game when the strike/lockout ends. But they always do...


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198475.6 in reply to 198475.5
Date: 10/15/2011 2:11:03 AM
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It seems stupidity when people are arguing over millions of dollars. It's demeaning to a lot of people all over the world. I watch regular season, but i can't say that I will care a lot if the season starts later, or anything else for that matter regarding NBA lockout.

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198475.7 in reply to 198475.6
Date: 10/15/2011 2:13:00 AM
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It's the exact opponent...you should be arguing over millions of dollars. Its arguing over a dollar that's crazy!

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198475.8 in reply to 198475.7
Date: 10/15/2011 2:21:11 AM
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If i were to choose between getting 4 or 5 million dollars, I really wouldn't give a crap. But, see... I don't have that option, I do have the option of working as a qualified engineer with a 400$/month starting salary


EDIT: We argue for a couple of dollars because we need it. They argue for money they absolutely do not need

Last edited by Boston Celts at 10/15/2011 2:23:09 AM

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198475.9 in reply to 198475.2
Date: 10/15/2011 4:30:11 AM
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I only watch regular season games on TV if I got nothing else to do, and don't mind just watching the daily recaps. I only watch religiously once the playoffs start.

Heck I don't even mind if the NBA simulate regular season games on NBA Live!