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From: jista26
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198855.1
Date: 10/18/2011 11:46:09 AM
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Not sure if this is the right spot for this, but it definitely feels like something that needs help. Due to the fact that a team does not have to pay salaries if they finish 5th place, there is an inhererent financial advantage to tanking to avoid 3rd or 4th place if you don't think your team can make a deep playoff run. Even if you manage to make a deep playoff run, playing all your games on the road probably puts you in a situation where you are losing money those two weeks. I do understand that finishing higher helps your fan survey and will boost your attendence the following season, but I am not convinced it is equal.

I have a potential solution and my apologies if it has been posted before. The NFL and MLB in the United States only pay their players' salaries during the regular season. If a team is fortunate enough to make the playoffs, the players receive a bonus depending on whether they lose the game/series and it is significantly lower than the salaries they earn during the regular season. Furthermore, it is funded out of a central account (i.e. the clubs don't pay it out of their operating budgets, though they have paid into the central fund at some point).

Here is my suggestion: Have playoff teams pay reduced salaries during the playoffs, maybe 25%-40% of their regular season payroll. This would effectively mimic what the clubs pay in to the central fund.

Definitely open to feedback here! I really enjoy this game and I am just trying to make it even better!

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198855.2 in reply to 198855.1
Date: 10/18/2011 1:34:40 PM
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I like the discussion. Because you're right, if you're between 4th and 5th place going into the playoffs, and you have no hope of competing with the top teams in the league (which is usually the case), there is no reason not to try and tank. More money, better draft pick, still get 2 games a week for training purposes.

I'm not sure how easy it would be to program in percentages of salaries for specific weeks, but it certainly sounds reasonable. On the owner's side, what about adding an incentive to win playoff games like there with Cup games. So even if you're in 4th place, you can CT to try and win your $50K (or whatever) reward. This could dissuade the attempt to intentionally lose games.

This thread should probably get moved to the suggestions forum.

From: Mvp

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198855.3 in reply to 198855.2
Date: 10/18/2011 2:39:23 PM
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Well i am 5th place in my league.. I had to pay salaries this week. Im not sure when the not paying salaries comes in effect.

From: natellio

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198855.4 in reply to 198855.3
Date: 10/18/2011 2:46:45 PM
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Playoffs had not started yet. You will not pay salaries the next 2 weeks if I know what I'm talking about.

From: Manouche

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198855.5 in reply to 198855.3
Date: 10/18/2011 3:28:25 PM
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Really ? Then it's a bug or it was changed from last season and I remember well because it started a discussion about players being paid in advance.

From: Monkeybiz

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198855.6 in reply to 198855.3
Date: 10/18/2011 6:36:07 PM
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Do check. You shoudln't have to pay salaries this week as you don't have a game!

You should have to pay staff salaries! But not player salaries!

If you paid player salaries then I would say it is a bug and you should post something in the bugs forum

From: Mvp

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198855.7 in reply to 198855.6
Date: 10/18/2011 6:46:15 PM
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So should I be paying salaries this week or next week?

From: Monkeybiz

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198855.8 in reply to 198855.7
Date: 10/18/2011 7:02:33 PM
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You should not have been paying players salaries since this week if you finished in 5th