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199220.1
Date: 10/23/2011 1:17:46 PM
JMDCeltics
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Yesterday i had an scrimmage at 20:00, 4 of the 5 players i dressed were at TL which bid finished at 20:30-20:45 so they had been able to play if matches began on time. Unluckly matches were delayed and 2 of them were sold so i played with 3 guys.
If one more player had been sold it had been a walkover and my rival training and mine had been damaged.

My suggestion is that if there is any delay, matches should be run with the orders set 15 minutes before gametime.
Opinions?

Best regards.

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199220.2 in reply to 199220.1
Date: 10/23/2011 1:28:02 PM
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My suggestion is that if there is any delay, matches should be run with the orders set 15 minutes before gametime.
Opinions?

I guess the problem was that this is already the case. It seems that the lineup freezing is the first step of the game simulation script. While I find your suggestion in principle fair, I don't think this will be implemented because the delay of the schedule would probably hit both scripts the way it now hits the single script. In addition, the real solution is to improve the reliability and reduce/remove the delays.

I sympathize but I don't think this will happen.

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199220.3 in reply to 199220.2
Date: 10/23/2011 1:41:51 PM
JMDCeltics
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My suggestion is that if there is any delay, matches should be run with the orders set 15 minutes before gametime.
Opinions?

I guess the problem was that this is already the case. It seems that the lineup freezing is the first step of the game simulation script. While I find your suggestion in principle fair, I don't think this will be implemented because the delay of the schedule would probably hit both scripts the way it now hits the single script. In addition, the real solution is to improve the reliability and reduce/remove the delays.

I sympathize but I don't think this will happen.


I know that it´s not easy, if there is a delay it´s because something isn´t working properly and simulating games with the orders at the same time as if it wasn´t a delay...

Best regards GM-WallyOop.

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199220.4 in reply to 199220.1
Date: 10/24/2011 5:09:46 PM
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I think you brang here two issues. Here are my opinion about them.

1) "Players leaving the team just minutes before the game starts"
I believe the right way to deal with it is as follows.
Auction time is to be set by the USER!
This will prevent this things of happening, or at least it will totaly be on the user responsibility.

Throughly, I don't have one reason why it can't be done.

2) What should happen to the training on a game that was not played due to forfeit?
First, I'm not sure what exactly happens now on those type of games.
What I suggest is that:
a) The team that caused it will not get any training minutes (I guess this is so anyhow).
b) The other team will get training minutes upon some formula.
For example an easy formula will be:
Starters - 36 minutes.
Backups - 10 minutes.
Reservers - 2 minutes.

Is that what you had in mind?

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199220.5 in reply to 199220.4
Date: 10/24/2011 5:13:14 PM
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no, he had in mind that when the game starts later, players who was eligible to play will stay eligible to play even when they are maybe transfered before the tip off through the server lack.

I believe the games run with a higher priority then the transfer who get stuck quite often, so when the games are freezing the transfer are too, and the games are calculated before the transfer when the server catch up so there won't be a problem but i am not totally sure about it.

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199220.6 in reply to 199220.5
Date: 10/24/2011 5:32:40 PM
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When I wrote "is this what you had in mind", I didn't meant for "is this what you wrote", as by definition I gave my opinion for an optional solution to the issue he brang...

At the end, this forum is for bringing suggestions...

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199220.7 in reply to 199220.6
Date: 10/24/2011 5:34:56 PM
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then write i have in mind, and not try to give other user your opion even when you like to do so ;)

Most of the stuff you are saying is also the case already.

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199220.8 in reply to 199220.4
Date: 10/24/2011 5:49:07 PM
JMDCeltics
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I think you brang here two issues. Here are my opinion about them.

1) "Players leaving the team just minutes before the game starts"
I believe the right way to deal with it is as follows.
Auction time is to be set by the USER!
This will prevent this things of happening, or at least it will totaly be on the user responsibility.

Throughly, I don't have one reason why it can't be done.


I´m sorry but you´re wrong. Match should start at 20:00 and bids finishing time was 20:30, so the players should have played the match.
Best regards.

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199220.9 in reply to 199220.7
Date: 10/24/2011 5:50:10 PM
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1) "My opinion" (that I wrote in my first message at this thread ===== (equals) ===== "I have in mind"

2) I basically wrote here two ideas, so there cannot be "most things" here as you wrote.
a) The auction-time is currenlty not being set by the user.
b) As I wrote, I don't know how the training time, for a team who didn't played due to forfeit penalty, is calculated.
My suggestion there was upon the state described by this threa creator information.

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199220.10 in reply to 199220.9
Date: 10/24/2011 5:54:06 PM
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ok all things are already the case ;) But when you say is this what he had in mind, while understanding him and capturing his thread to post your ideas about just slightly related stuff you can come to the conclusion that you didn't understood him.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 10/24/2011 5:55:30 PM

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199220.11 in reply to 199220.8
Date: 10/24/2011 5:59:37 PM
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I think you only focused on the less important part of what I wrote.
You have focused that it is the user's fault.

The main thing you missed here is that I suggested the game should give the user the ability to set exact auction timing.
Then, it is the user's fault.

Still there could be cases like the one described in your example, what I missed writing in my suggestion is that the players that will be available for a game will be set upon auction-time & scheduled game-time.
Meaning, when one set an auction-time, the game will see on which games scheduled this player will be available and for which team. Upon it the roster for that game will be set.

Now that I think of it, it sound that this part is irrelevant to the first part...