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200647.1
Date: 11/1/2011 1:52:40 PM
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Hi guys.

I have been playing for 2 full seasons now and am still pretty clueless.

Is anyone willing to take me under their wing and offer me some general advice please.

I don't need someone to hold my hand and am happy to plod along on my own, but it would just be nice for someone to give me a shove in the right direction every now and again.

Thanks in advance.

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200647.2 in reply to 200647.1
Date: 11/2/2011 9:50:06 AM
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You can send a message (BB-mail) to me, I'd be happy to point you in the right direction.

I'd like also a list of what is currently your staff and your trainees.

Greetings,

GM-Arsjitekt

From: Fluff

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200647.3 in reply to 200647.1
Date: 11/4/2011 8:15:26 AM
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Hi there is a lot to learn about managing a basketball team and everyone has their own opinions.
If you have any specific questions or want a second opinion fo r anything you can always mail me or post here.
Training, gameshape, enthusiasm and arena development are key areas to develop your understanding and experiment with.
Beyond this it also gets interesting when thinking about tactics and building up a team over time. Exciting stuff!
This all takes time though and I would say with a couple seasons behind you now is a good time to find improvements in managing your team.
Good luck!

From: Nutinvah

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200647.4 in reply to 200647.3
Date: 11/4/2011 5:16:38 PM
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Well thanks to everyone who has responded, (there have been a few).

Rather than ask questions of individuals in private, (although I might do that too), I will probably ask questions in here so that I might get more than one opinion and also so that others who are in a similar position can read and learn.

So where to start....

I had new coaches, but this was not good because I was paying HUGELY over the odds for one, and significantly over the odds for another. I have now rectified this and although I have obviously had to take a hit in terms of severance pay/signing on bonus, at least it is done now and rather than my finances remaining static, I should at least make forward progress.

My finances were pretty static at about £200,000 balance but most of this has been wiped out this week with the coaches being hired & fired. (That probably tells you exactly how astronomical the wages were). Anyway, a lesson learned and all that.

I have already increased my stadium but after promoting, my attendances did not improve as expected and in fact dropped in line with my results in the tougher league. Recent attendances have been approx 3,300 which is well below the capacity of 6,671 so I will be playing about with the ticket prices over the next few games to see if I can get more bums on seats.

I am currently training 1 player in particular, (with advice from Eminence), and that seems to be going ok, but I obviously need a 2nd player to train with him and that has not gone so well for some reason as I seem to have chopped and changed this 2nd guy a bit. Have now decided on one of my draft picks and he will just be trained with Quite no matter what. It might not be ideal for the 2nd player, but training Quite is my priority at the moment. At the moment I am just training 2 players each week when there are 3 matches, but when there are only 2 games in a week, (pre/mid/close), I revert to Team Training and use either Free Throws or Stamina. Is that ok?

Gameshape is something I am not too au fait with. It's basically "match fitness"? Is that right? Too much game-time and the players are too tired and not enough and they are not match-sharp? I only have a small squad but at the moment they are all respectable. I have just looked at my next opposition and they are all respectable too, so I guess it is re-set during the close-season or something and we all start from respectable. Not sure how easy it is to keep gameshape in a small squad, but I am aware of it's importance, (even before you mentioned it), so will just have to keep an eye on it.

Enthusiasm I just leave at normal, (with the exception of my relegation playoff games at the end of the season when I cranked it up to max).

I have a couple of things that are next on my list.

First is to actually look at each of my players and work out if they are actually suited to the position I am playing them in. I signed some of them in my first days in the game so it's quite possible that while an improvement on what I had, they might have skills in the wrong area if you know what I mean.

I will probably start doing this tomorrow and just go through them slowly one-by-one and then take it from there. At the moment my finances are such that even if I wanted to bring in new players I would not be able to so its not exactly a rush.

In any case, there are 4 teams in my league significantly stronger than me, (and one significantly weaker), so like last season it will be a battle between 3 teams for 5th, 6th and 7th.

What does confuse me however is how the team that finished 5th in my league last season is now in league IV.2 after being relegated. I thought the team that finished 5th didn't go down? 8th on each side goes down and then 6th and 7th playoff against the other league and the loser in a best of 3 gets relegated. Just seems like we had an extra relegation for some reason.

Once I have had a chance to go through my poorer players I will probably pos

Last edited by Nutinvah at 11/4/2011 5:19:29 PM

From: Fluff

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200647.5 in reply to 200647.4
Date: 11/5/2011 5:13:26 AM
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Great message! I think this sums up what a lot of new managers are feeling/thinking so you are not on your own.

Im sure others have thread links, manual links etc at their fingertips which will help you. But in the mean time:

Arena - great long term investment so why not start now? (cant go wrong - research the top teams arenas to get a feel of the maximums and aim for that in the long run)
dont worry if you are not filling it out. start of the season everyones attendance is low until the fans get all excited again.
Certainly toy with prices. Tweak up and down by 5% or 10%, but you can only do this 2 or 3 times a season (you can set them any time but notice the deadline for when they take effect)
Bleachers are more volatile attendance/closely linked to performance week to week. Volatility decreases up to luxury boxes where your richer fans sit (and they dont care as much whether you win or lose each week, they are just there to show off and drink wine).

Training - theres lots of info on this. Try (174881.1) and explore. (Thanks USA community+congrats on U21 achievement!) Either train 3 guys "one position" as far as you can, or 5 or 6 guys "two position" as far as you can. THere are pros and cons to each. I have always trained 3 guys one position, and for u21 and NT this is the better way to get quicker progression. However, training twice as many players at 2/3 or 3/4 of the speed of one position must be tempting to new managers! I tend to train and worry about results second, but it is important to strike a balance here. As for who to train, if you are tight for money, you can add value fairly quickly to training a young player (21 or younger) with star potential, provided they are the right height for your training regime. NExt season you can look at better players/higher potential if you save some money. Get a level 4 coach or aim for one. Get a balance between transfer sum and weekly wage. replace every couple seasons. Training is fun, earns you money and wins you games down the line!

Gameshape - the principle is easy - play each of your players 4 to 6 quarters a week. No more, no less. The closer to 6 quarters the better. However, if you creep over 72 minutes then GS bonus turns to penalty quickly. Each level of GS is like an extra layer or two of skills - dont underestimate its importance! You should experiment with lineups/tactics to improve how often you achieve this. When you have an NT player quite often a coach will select from his team on the basis of great GS. There has just been a GS reset which is why everyone has the same GS. Every Friday it updates the same time as training. GS wanders up and down according to playing time over the last few weeks (more weighted to the last weeks minutes) and a random element. VERY IMPORTANT. Did i say that already?

Enthusiasm - Again very important tactical decision each game. Worth working out what your opponents do before you decide what to do. If you think you will lose for sure or win for sure, then you could build your enthusiasm by taking it easy (TIE) accepting the win/loss, and perhaps win the next game with the extra enthusiasm your team has. Playing a normal/TIE once enthusiasm gets to 9 or 10 is probably as effective as crunch time (CT)/normal at enthusiasm 5. Use CT only occasionally as playing TIE or normal with enthusiasm lower than 5 doesnt give good results! Enthusiasm updates after every game except scrimmages. It tends to drop or increase to 5 over time. To maintain a high enthusiasm you need to keep playing TIE. This is also very important and can show in final league standings/playoff winners especially in lower leages where other managers do not manage enthusiasm.

Bot clean ups - at the end of every season the computer controlled teams get demoted all the way down, and then the best human controlled teams get autopromoted up to replace them.

hope this helps!










From: Nutinvah

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Date: 11/5/2011 4:23:55 PM
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Thanks Fluff.

Very helpful.

So the #5 team relegating was a BOT clearance. That makes sense now. Thanks.

So 72 minutes is the witching hour. Over 48 but under 72. Mmmm. That means a change of strategy then. What I have been doing is just starting Quite and then rotating in his replacement to start the scrimmage game with Quite swapping to bench. Will have to rotate Quite completely out of the scrimmage game then, (just to be sure). That's fine though, just so long as I know now.

Training I will have to revisit at some point in the future I think. Don't really want to delve too much into that at the moment. I have a little plan for this season, so that at least gives me some breathing space.

I forgot to do the ticket prices for today but I will do it between now and the next game which is the Cup. On that note, I wull be going out because I have drawn the #81 ranked team in the Country, (I am ranked 200+). Is a higher ranked team playing at my stadium going to mean that I should leave the prices as they are for this game?

I don't completely get what you have said about enthusiasm. I think I need to read up on that a little. From what you have said you are able to take it easy and save some enthusiasm for the next game. Interesting.

As I will be getting banjoed in a few games and I only have to target 8-10 winnable games, this could be an important tactic for me. Will have to do some research in this area I think.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply. :)


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Date: 11/5/2011 6:01:35 PM
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for training purposes you need 48"+" minutes to get 100% training for the player in the "training position". I prefer to do this all in one go in one game, but some may do this over 2 or 3 games during the week.

GS is a separate consideration for all players includng your trainees.
For my trainee i tend to play one whole game, then sub in another game which gives approx 60minutes and sometimes more. (but i use a common set up for the coach and line up which is good at guaranteeing 1 quarter for subs)

if you think you will lose a game regardless of how hard you try, then you could play "take it easy" to build your enthusiasm. If you do this a few times enthusiasm grows up towards and over 10. this, along with good game shape across your players will mean you can compete in games that you wouldnt thought possible.

And on prices for your arena, you can change them whenever you like, but they will only take effect at certain times of the season... it will be another few weeks until the prices are updated andyou can see the effect of them on attendance. the exact date is shown on your arena screen


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Date: 11/6/2011 6:30:32 AM
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Yeah I think I would prefer to start my trainees in the two league games and then rest them completely for the scrimmage/Cup. If I had a chance of winning a Cup game then I might look at that differently, but surely going to get hammered in Round 1.

The enthusiasm is certainly something I am going to have to experiment with. It seems like it might have a far bigger impact, (if used correctly), than I had anticipated.

Yeah I read about that. I have changed them now, (only slightly), and will just see how it goes. The change doesn't kick-in until 29th November so fingers crossed that I haven't got it completely wrong.

Big thing for the next few days is to actually analyse the players that I have and see if I have been playing in the correct positions. I know that there is a list somewhere which details which attributes are a priority and which are of secondary importance for each position but although I have seen it before, I can't find it now. Would one of you mind linking me to it please. It's only a guess, but I would expect to have some serious issues in a few positions. While I won't be able to solve this immediately, it should at least allow me to predict where I might struggle/do well in matches and plan accordingly.

[Edit]

Don't worry. Found it now.

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thr...

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200647.10 in reply to 200647.8
Date: 11/25/2011 11:36:16 AM
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Ok guys.

Having a few problems with training.

I have been following a training plan for my star player Andy Quite. I got him a couple of pops in passing and then the plan was for me just to rotate between JS, JR & OD, (he's a PG).

Now last week was the 1st JS week so he popped in JS as expected, (as did 2 others). The question I have is that one of my average players popped in JR rather than JS. Is this just because some training areas have a cross-over effect into other training areas and because he was at a low level it was enough to pop him?

I'm just a bit concerned that i am doing something wrong.

This week I am moving onto JR and other than Andy Quite, what I am trying to do is even out a few players who might be lacking in that area. (so poor JR in a position that needs JR). The problem here is that's exactly what I was trying to do last week. The player that popped in JR didn't need a pop in that at all, but I was really keen for him to pop in JS. That it worked in reverse has made him even more unbalanced. :(

Now I know that I am only a new team and as such I have many players like this. It's not a huge deal because I am only now starting to get to grips with the game, (and especially training), but I really don't want to me making things worse. Was I just unlucky that McCleary popped in JR rather than JS, or is there something I am doing wrong. McCleary obviously will NOT be getting trained this week now that I have rotated onto JR.

Thanks in advance and apologies if the above is a bit muddled.

ps Andy Quite (19583249) now looks like this.

Jump Shot: prominent↑(10) Jump Range: strong(8)
Outside Def.: prominent(10) Handling: proficient(9)
Driving: strong(8) Passing: proficient(9)
Inside Shot: average(6) Inside Def.: average(6)
Rebounding: respectable(7) Shot Blocking: strong(8)
Stamina: proficient(9) Free Throw: inept(4)
Experience: pitiful(2)

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Date: 11/26/2011 8:26:19 AM
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Hi

Yeah JS has a minor effect on JR, HA and DR and then of course there is also an small percentage going to one of your weakest stats if you are training a primary.

Training JR also teaches JS, HA, DR

Info on training secondaries

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thread=78242&m=1

You may be able to set a more concise training schedule if you take in to account when a secondary is about to pop.