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I've made a short (not that short...) research and wanted to see how many teams that had joined BB later than seasons-4 exists on DIV-1 (both conferences) of thier BB nation.

Here are the interesting results (This is an enhancement to information I've brang before, and basically shows the same), they are ordered upon their size;
1) Spain - 4468 users, all teams have joined not later than season-4.
This means that out of 17 seasons there isn't even a single representative to any of the last 13 seasons!!!

2) Italy - 4243 users, all teams have joined not later than season-4.

3) Poland -3633 users, only three teams (out of 16) had joined later than season-4. Two of the three got promoted to this league only now.

4) USA - 2794 users, 6 teams had joined later than season-4, three of them joined this season.

5) France - 2422 users, all teams have joined not later than season-4.

6) Germany - 977 users, all teams have joined not later than season-4.

So we see that out of 17 seasons that had been completed, the amount of teams on DIV-I over those leagues, that have joined the BB prior of season-4 is small, to say the least. On the verge of non-existing.

Previously I've taken a look on the ABBL league ("great 8" conference).
On that research I've focused on what have happened to the teams who had been on the first division of ABBL on season-4.
The answer had been that teams that left this league on that season can be clasified under one of the following:
a) A team that their manager was not good enough, and who played on this division only on that season.
b) A team that had left the game from this league, or after being relegated from it.

Summarizing, there is a problem with current system.
Competition is defined a lot by the time one had joined the game.
Of course that a bad BB-manager would not survive on the first division.
But being a good one will not be enough comparing another user with the same skills and even less, but who joined the game prior to your team.
This is due to the fact that the amount of assets (money, players value, etc.) just grows each year, and the advantage of richer teams just grows.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 11/9/2011 3:52:27 PM

Accept it. You will never make it to the top. You´re not here since season 4. So maybe playing 2k12 is the alternative, while we keep on trying?

Accept it. You will never make it to the top. You´re not here since season 4. So maybe playing 2k12 is the alternative, while we keep on trying?

I don't need your opinion. I need BB to act.
The facts that I give here and all over, will make it.

The junk of excuses you are throwing (because you don't have any reliable information to support current system that you exploit due to its bad definition, will not do the trick...

Here we go again...

The thread starts with a message that brings facts.
I understand that it is hard for those who want this system to stay as it is, due to their narrow benefit, but this information will keep on coming.

Man, you actually tried to convince people twice, and twice you get your threads closed because the debate reached a pointless status. Accept it... no one's gonna give the reason to your improvement proposals.

Good luck, though. Don't expect me to answer back, I'm just tired.

1) I don't need the approval of other users. Especialy those who are opposing it due to their narrow benefit from current system.
I need BB to act.

2) I see you are "relating" to each point of the facts that I've brang. Interesting...

3) What is more interesting is that a player who plays at a BB nation that has not even one team who joined BB later than season-4 attacking hard against this facts.
Interesting will be speaking very gentle...

Accept that BB will not make those stupid adjustments you want them to do...

You need the BBs to react because of ... what? You failed to come here before season 4? Or because you´re unwilling to fight through the game and instead try to tweak all and everything until it has become something completely different but so user friendly and pini-like?

Facts are facts. {seelenjaeger is seelenjaeger, and no correlation between them...).

I brought facts that shows that there is a problem.
Of course that now it is by the numbers, and not just words in the air, so you cannot address them and have it your way.
This is why they left aside by you.

I asked BB to react, as there is a problem with the competitiveness of the game (and I proved it).
What will happen to me probabaly happen to a lot others, who left the game due to this issue.
Meaning that when my way in the game will get stuck due to this issue, I'll stop playing it quite shortly after.

I must say that I find this game very entertaining, and I was sure that on season-18 there will be much more teams than what I've found.
I guess that the reason is mainly this issue I've brought.

Accept that BB will not make those stupid adjustments you want them to do...

Leaving suggestions aside.
I've brought facts. What did you understood from them? And how?