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From: atsii
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Date: 11/17/2011 1:56:25 AM
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I did not know where I should put this but there has been discussion in Finnish forum. My idea is this:

It is so annoying when good draftees are locked in bot team. That is waste. My suggestion is that every draftee which is drafted by bot goes the transfer list through once. If no one buys him he wil remain in bot team.

So what are you thinking about this?

From: Ashurri

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202716.2 in reply to 202716.1
Date: 11/17/2011 2:06:01 AM
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Sadly, it benefits countries with huge bot teams :P The talent for their national teams in the coming years will then be weighted heavily on the number of high talents making the transfer list. It will also bring problems like players creating dupe accounts activating hundreds or thousands of bot teams in a country!

edit: i mean creating new divisions = more bot teams = more young players from draft hitting TL

Last edited by Ashurri at 11/17/2011 2:06:37 AM

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202716.3 in reply to 202716.2
Date: 11/18/2011 4:32:52 AM
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I agree both with the suggestion and with the problem that had been brought, but I think we can think here on some solution/s for it.
1) Allowing only a limited number of players, that had been part of a team that "had gone" BOT, to be part of the NT.

2) Better monitoring, for identifying, which team actually played, and who had cheated.
Generally, there is a "cheaters mechanism", and it is OK.
In addition, I believe that the argument of cheating is general, and hence no need to focus only on NT.

3) Any player that has been part of a team that had gone BOT, will suffer some (random?) decrease of skills or/and potential.

We can come with other ideas, but I think that in general I support the suggestion.

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202716.4 in reply to 202716.3
Date: 11/18/2011 5:48:27 AM
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1) Allowing only a limited number of players, that had been part of a team that "had gone" BOT, to be part of the NT.


i believe every draft you won't get an unlimited amount of draft pick at one bot, even two would be pretty much and three the max.

2) Better monitoring, for identifying, which team actually played, and who had cheated.
Generally, there is a "cheaters mechanism", and it is OK.
In addition, I believe that the argument of cheating is general, and hence no need to focus only on NT.


i don't believe much at the cheating strategy bring in here too, but it works more like that, lets say Nation a have three divisions where the first too would be pretty full. If now preseason they are registering some teams that the 3 league has some human controlled players, this country get a fourth league as puffer. Which means they get 64 draft pool, for their NT.

In germany this might be even bigger prob, since we have four active league, and a sixth division.

Which means:
1 + 4+ 16 +64 = 85 normal draft classes(and you might point out that some of the foruth div classes could get in the next group)

256 + 1024 = 1280 draft classes who put their biggest talents on free agency.

So the pool of trainable player will increase heavily and make scouting a bit stupid cause you could buy good talents for very small money.

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202716.5 in reply to 202716.4
Date: 11/21/2011 11:18:47 AM
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1) Allowing only a limited number of players, that had been part of a team that "had gone" BOT, to be part of the NT.


i believe every draft you won't get an unlimited amount of draft pick at one bot, even two would be pretty much and three the max.
You did not understood what I've meant. The amount is per NT and not per team.
You can add up to 2 players (for example) to the NT, that had been part of a team/s gone BOT.

2) Better monitoring, for identifying, which team actually played, and who had cheated.
Generally, there is a "cheaters mechanism", and it is OK.
In addition, I believe that the argument of cheating is general, and hence no need to focus only on NT.


i don't believe much at the cheating strategy bring in here too, but it works more like that, lets say Nation a have three divisions where the first too would be pretty full. If now preseason they are registering some teams that the 3 league has some human controlled players, this country get a fourth league as puffer. Which means they get 64 draft pool, for their NT.

In germany this might be even bigger prob, since we have four active league, and a sixth division.

Which means:
1 + 4+ 16 +64 = 85 normal draft classes(and you might point out that some of the foruth div classes could get in the next group)

256 + 1024 = 1280 draft classes who put their biggest talents on free agency.

So the pool of trainable player will increase heavily and make scouting a bit stupid cause you could buy good talents for very small money.
So another suggestion is to allow only draftees from the top four leagues (for example) to go to any NT.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 11/21/2011 11:19:22 AM

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202716.7 in reply to 202716.6
Date: 11/23/2011 2:27:57 PM
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So another suggestion is to allow only draftees from the top four leagues (for example) to go to any NT.
You'll make a shitload of italian/spanish players unhappy with that.
And you'll make much more BB-nations happy with that making the game more competativable (at least NT-wise...).

Last edited by Pini פיני at 11/23/2011 2:28:59 PM

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202716.8 in reply to 202716.7
Date: 11/23/2011 2:32:24 PM
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i am often involved in the german nt, which would have the perfect circumstances for it and i wouldn't be happy about it.

And i am quite sure i am not alone.

And since you rate all post by personal interest, this statement should count big time!

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202716.9 in reply to 202716.6
Date: 11/24/2011 12:29:55 AM
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And I said that while just today, France lost a player in a botification. A player we see once in a 10 seasons.


So why wasn't he saved? 75% of our U21 team comes from players that were saved from free agency by being added to the U21 team.

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Date: 11/24/2011 4:18:48 AM
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And I said that while just today, France lost a player in a botification. A player we see once in a 10 seasons.


So why wasn't he saved? 75% of our U21 team comes from players that were saved from free agency by being added to the U21 team.


Our coach just... forgot!

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From: Arsjitekt

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202716.11 in reply to 202716.1
Date: 11/24/2011 8:27:19 AM
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Against, a country is only as good as it's active teams make it. No bots should have part in this.