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Tonights transfer of a 26yo decently balanced center, proficient GS (actually sold for 20% above his TPE)

Purchased from XXXX for $ 1 149 000
MVP Voting 25/07/2011 16 Ranked 7 in the League XXXXX Season 16 MVP vote with 11 points
Transfer 21/12/2010 14 Purchased from Free Agent for $ 3 135 000
Transfer 18/09/2010 13 Purchased from Free Agent for $ 5 000 000
Transfer 27/04/2010 12 Purchased from XXXXX for $ 6 469 000
MVP Voting 15/12/2009 10 Ranked 10 in the League XXXXX Season 10 MVP vote with 3 points
Transfer 24/09/2009 10 Purchased from Free Agency for $ 2 178 000
Drafted 08/09/2009 9 Drafted as pick 9 of 48 by XXXXX in the Season 9 Draft

This guy will be a cracking player for seasons to come & wages are reasonable ($113k)...... I love(d) the transfer market in this game - not to exploit opportunities (although that was fun also), but this past season has been a sorry state on the transfer list. You can understand those that are disheartened by the system & it really does seem too late to change anything thru fear of having to upset 1 big group of people.

Simple supply and demand. Seasons ago, the number of quality players was limited. Now there are the same number of users but far more well trained veteran players. And it's not like top teams such as yourself can suddenly start accumulating $2 million payrolls to keep the balance.

It isn't the 'demise' of BB, simply a shift in the economic model.

Last edited by Beener not Beanerz at 12/18/2011 12:31:38 PM

Simple supply and demand. Seasons ago, the number of quality players was limited. Now there are the same number of users but far more well trained veteran players. And it's not like top teams such as yourself can suddenly start accumulating $2 million payrolls to keep the balance.

It isn't the 'demise' of BB, simply a shift in the economic model.

I concur - but the shift as you describe along with the change to training speeds has made the transfer market almost null & void.

Training balanced players (multi-tremendous) that won't ever win you games of any importance are the only players you can break even with.

This was so predictable yet nothing was ever done & so the lack of tactical additions we're all hanging on to hear about are going to be irrelevant.

You mean daytrading is hard now. That's a good thing! Obviously getting closer to economic equilibrium is going to lower the prices. Removing free agency in the future might raise the prices again. Greatly trained players still sell for a great price. Unequally trained players just keep losing their value.

The problem I find is that the estimated price of the rare well balanced player doesn't come close to his worth
The best that seems to be done is that the note appearing with his name says
He is probably better than all the others.
If we are to train the well balanced
they need some respect!

I agree the estimation does not work well. But to be honest, these players are not being owned by managers, who do not know their actual worth...

I wouldn't even begin to consider 20% above Estimated Value a crime. Now if it was 200%.....

You mean daytrading is hard now. That's a good thing! Obviously getting closer to economic equilibrium is going to lower the prices. Removing free agency in the future might raise the prices again. Greatly trained players still sell for a great price. Unequally trained players just keep losing their value.

Daytrading is hard xD? You must be joking

I see everyday players(rookies of 18-19 years) bought for 1k and after 1-2 weeks they are sold for 100k(i saw some GM's doing this too, it's legal, but not a good example) and most of the times who buy them are new managers who don't know what they are doing.

Obviously getting closer to economic equilibrium is going to lower the prices

That's something i doubt it's going to happen, i've read this since season 7 or so and now the TL is more like a jungle where if you are lucky and you sell high you can make the difference.



The free agents are doing big unbalances on the leagues, most of the times they don't hit a ''fair price'', they are sold for less than the player is worth(apart from 1-2 good FA's), they are more a good opportunity than anything else.

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@Superfly Guy

I agree with you 'TL' became too powerfull, there's a big difference between the managers who spend lot of time scouting the TL and those who like to spend the time thinking on the training&scouting the opponents.

Last edited by Marot at 12/18/2011 8:20:28 PM

Training balanced players (multi-tremendous) that won't ever win you games of any importance are the only players you can break even with.

yeah, i worried it will get to the point where it is impossible to get to the top leagues without going on suicide runs (aka Venomous Scorpions). That is, being in the top divisions requires player salaries that are not sustainable, leading to teams saving money for a while in DII or DIII, then making a break for DI and BBB. This has already happened in, well, we all know what I'm referring too, as well as BBB.

To effectively show the "demise of BB", you would need to present an example of what a 115k player sold for 5 seasons ago and compare that to the present rate of $ 1 149 000. All you've shown with this example is that a player's TL value greatly decreases once the player is no longer trainable. Sounds pretty logical to me.

Of course prices have decreased across the board for players, save for NT trainees and SFs. This can be explained by the much greater supply of solid players, combined with the same demand.

I'm confused, didn't you bring this issue up a few months ago with an equally flawed, much cheaper example? (189530.1)