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205486.1
Date: 12/29/2011 3:23:20 PM
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A thread in the bug forum(203810.1) about an non existing bug under the current GE is currently worrying me a bit. I think it is important and correct that players decline in skill and get less usefull when they get old ... And i believe the most 33 old player have a pretty slight but fair decline in skills, but random gives higlight ike that:

My 33 years old pf have dropped Inside Defense from 12 to 9 this week, TRIPPLE DROP!


(203810.44) it is not a false report if you look at the reply from Marin.

Maybe we could remove the random there*, and give player a weekly decline with the current average drops, instead of making skilldowns betwen close to nothing and 3 skills each week.

*: the random in the working method of career extension, is fine to me with a constant decline.

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205486.2 in reply to 205486.1
Date: 12/29/2011 3:34:12 PM
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Well, it will definitely stop people popping up now and then crying "OMG my player dropped [insert number] of levels this week! this is a bug!!" xD

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205486.3 in reply to 205486.2
Date: 12/29/2011 3:44:51 PM
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I prefer the random drops though, even if they can end up beeing massive.

Having a player of some age -might- work out fine for some time, but all of a sudden he cannot catch a ball. Sounds pretty damn realistic to me. The "predictable" stuff would make age only a accountable size for the tables. By making age drops random you get a gamble there - just make sure everybody knows what he´s going to get.

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205486.4 in reply to 205486.3
Date: 12/29/2011 4:38:52 PM
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I think we all know reallife players who reached their maximum later then 31, but that are the game rules, we know it and handle with it. The question is not if its realistic or not, the question is: Is it productive for fun game? For me, triple-downs would be really frustrating, and the influence of randomness is to big in this case (as said, imho). Why not combine a constant skill-down-factor with a random,small decline?

The advantage would be the possibility to play with players older than 31 - i would never buy i player who could have triple-downs because of the impossibility to plan with such guys, and i think the majority of the managers would agree.

From: Kukoc

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205486.5 in reply to 205486.4
Date: 12/29/2011 4:53:47 PM
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If you are buying a 33yo to be your teams franchise player, then you are actually sinking your own boat. Think about the NT players with massive total skills. Even with occasional triple downs, it's going to take a bunch of seasons to decline them to garbage. Even if they drop one skill on average per week. With skill totals (ft,st,exp excluded) of 120-130, we are looking at 50+ skilldrops to all skills at 7 player. That's near 4 seasons. Player with all around 7-s can still produce at IV div or be a bench player in divIII (depending on countrys this may vary hugely!). At 33, they already had 15 seasons of playing. After that they might pull out 4-5 more with NT lvl skills declining. To me this seems ok.

From: CrazyEye

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205486.6 in reply to 205486.5
Date: 12/29/2011 5:01:12 PM
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this suggestion is not about stopping the skill decline, it is just about making it different then loossing 0,05 JS the first week, 0,1 the next, then 0,05 again and in the next week it drops 3 skills in total.
If these numbers are represental, a skilldrop around 0,8 skills each week would be my favourite(i know inf act the average is much lower, but those makes it even more unfair for those who get those 3 skill downs at once since you need a very large sample to rule this out).

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205486.7 in reply to 205486.5
Date: 12/29/2011 5:05:28 PM
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i have a 39 year old

Marco Angrillo (11323959) Point Guard
Weekly salary: $ 1 562
Age: 39
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: bench warmer
Game Shape: average
Jump Shot: pitiful Jump Range: awful
Outside Def.: inept Handling: inept
Driving: mediocre Passing: average
Inside Shot: inept Inside Def.: awful
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: proficient Experience: mediocre


who was on my team since season 10 & i have observed a very consistant down pop pattern

but i know that nature of random is it can look like a pattern

but a triple down pop ive never seen not even a double down

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205486.8 in reply to 205486.7
Date: 12/29/2011 5:09:37 PM
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BB-Marin points out that it is very unlikely, yet can happen. It is not a bug by default.

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205486.9 in reply to 205486.8
Date: 12/29/2011 6:13:15 PM
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BB-Marin points out that it is very unlikely, yet can happen. It is not a bug by default.


Then it must be a great feature.

Not so sure...

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205486.10 in reply to 205486.9
Date: 12/29/2011 6:39:44 PM
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I think they call it "design". Just like this company, which is all about that ... how was it called ... Orange? Cherry?

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205486.11 in reply to 205486.10
Date: 12/31/2011 7:49:18 AM
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I totaly agree with current design.

An old player is to face a major drop of skills. [This must be added also for injured players]
Three drops is not much, comparing to the normal total of skills a player usually have at that age, and comparing to real life skill drop by age.

A player owning that type of player is taking that risk on his own.