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From: Booshay
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Date: 1/29/2012 6:45:06 PM
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I have the first pick in the draft and I haven't had a chance to do a whole lot of scouting since I have only been playing for the past 3 weeks. However I have found 2 players who may be worth selecting.

An 18 year old, 6'5 Center with a star rating of 4 and a potential of 3.

The second prospect is

A 19 year old, 6'6 Center with a star rating of 5 and a potential of 3.

Now obviously normally you would take the higher star rating first but does the age of the player make a bigger difference? Should I take the 18 year old because he will have an extra year to train and by the time he is 19, he could be better than the current 19 year old? What do you guys think?

Also, they are obviously notbig enough to be Centers and it will take a longer to train them in the skills that are required of by a Center. So what position should I train him for?

From: Booshay

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Date: 1/29/2012 10:02:08 PM
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Little bit of help?

From: yodabig

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Date: 1/29/2012 11:30:35 PM
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Neither. What a disaster for you - but don't worry I am in the identical position.

The most important thing you want from the draft is a high potential 18 year old with good starting skills. Strike.
Next best is a really short guard or a really tall big man with outstanding starting skills. Strike.
Finally at least a player with great potential even if he does start out a bit bad. Strike.
Your'e out!

You can't make any plans for those guys until you actually draft them. If you are in a division IV with the first pick and lots of bots I would nab the 18 year old first and you have at least a chance to get the 19 year old in the second round.

Did you not find anyone with 4 or 5 ball potential?

Also are they A+, A or A- skills, makes a massive difference.

From: Booshay

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Date: 1/29/2012 11:42:24 PM
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No 4 or 5 ball potential. Umm the 19 year old has an A+. The 18 year old has a B-

From: yodabig

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A+ to a B- that could be a $7,000 starting salary against a $3,500. Still a lottery but A+ guys are always exciting. 99% of the time I would go with the 18 year old, this could be the 1%.

From: Booshay

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Date: 1/30/2012 12:00:13 AM
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If it makes any difference the 18 year old is actually a B, not a B-. So would you recommend taking the A+ 19 year old? I do have one other player with a 4 star rating and 3 potential. He is 19 years old with a grade rating of B-. I dont think he would be any better than the other two.


From: malice

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Date: 1/30/2012 1:38:20 AM
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Look at it this way: do you think you'll train either? If so, then do you think the 18yo will be better in a season? In all likelihood - yes. So the 18yo.
But if you don't plan on training the draftee, then (obviously) take the 19yo.

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Date: 1/30/2012 4:57:32 AM
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19 year old after seazon will be better than 18 year after seazon:D the only difference is that one gona end his career 1 year earlier:D yep yep and training is slower.... if hes MVP potencial you lose the whole 8!!! skills with lvl 7 trainer if u train till age 28 18year old and to 29 19 year old. SO since they low potencial id take 19 year old for sure, i think A+ has a lowest salary of 4.5k

The logic in bb is bullshit, IS greg oden better than Blake griffin cause hes younger and if he would progress more than griffin and grifin wouldnt progress at all then oden would be defitenely be better. ITS BULLSHIT, not a logic. Those players wont hit u-21, so no big deal if hes 1 year older.

Last edited by Gajus Julijus Cezaris at 1/30/2012 5:00:50 AM

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Date: 1/30/2012 6:30:13 AM
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By 20, the 18yo is perhaps better than the 19yo at 21.

It's your logic you're imposing on it, and comparisons to the NBA aren't exactly realistic. It simply is what it is.

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Date: 1/30/2012 7:15:40 AM
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according to jozef ka formulas, which i believe is somewhat pretty accurate, 1 year difference loses 8% training in the final result. So it should be like this: if player is drafted 50skillpoints, he is trainable to 110, if as well rounded sf. so the 8% is like 4,8 skill pops in this case. And i am pretty sure the 19 year old in this case with A+ would have those 5 more skill points than a 18 year B rating one. according to formulas in 6 years 18 year old would get 4.8 full training seazons as fast as 18year old can get, and 19year one in 6 years 4.32 as 18year old can get. Another argument is, if 19 year olds would be so pathetically unusefull, why the hell BBs would put them in the draft? If they would wanted just to put crap, why dont just put 1k salary 18 year old 6th mans, or bench warmers?

Personally i train 19year old draftees, and never felt so great impact, as you say. If trainee has ideal height, he even trains faster. for example i have trained till 24-29k two 18 year and 19 year draftees 4 seazons, always together, one was 6.0 and 19 year old while other 6.3 and 18 year, the first one even traiend faster at guard skills.

For conclusion, there is a crowd sourcing project going on in bb comunity, and i believe it will end all those discusions with rock solid arguments -numbers. Cant wait for results:D

Last edited by Gajus Julijus Cezaris at 1/30/2012 7:31:37 AM