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From: E.B.W.
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Date: 2/11/2012 6:38:19 PM
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Hey guys this is my player and i was wondering about what you thought about how i plan to train him... This is him:


Weekly salary: $ 4 966
Role: draws a paycheck
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DMI: 12000
Age: 18
Height: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: average
Driving: inept Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: pitiful Inside Def.: awful
Rebounding: awful Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: inept Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: atrocious

My plan is to train pressure single position with him as the PG until his outside Defense is at least sensational (5 pops) and then get handling up to strong (2 pops) and his passing up to prominent (5 pops). I have a few questions though:

1. Is this a good idea? I wasn't going to train shooting at all because he already has respectable for both JS and JR, but what do you think?

2. Is it possible to get these 12 pops this season? If not how many pops do you think I can get? (I have a level 4/advanced trainer)

3. Can i make this player my center of attention for the next few seasons even though he only has allstar potential?

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210034.3 in reply to 210034.2
Date: 2/11/2012 9:21:29 PM
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Wouldn't the training slow down because of the elastic effect?

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210034.4 in reply to 210034.1
Date: 2/12/2012 2:48:39 AM
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i was training signle pozition OD and PA, and yes you can get 12 pops per seazon. i got 15 with 19 year old 6.0 height lvl 4 coach. It isnt the most perfect idea, since in the final rezult you lose like 2-3skill pops per 4 seazons due to elastic effect. But money and wins-wise its really good. if player can defend you can win league with that. Atm im in league 4 and havent trained 2 seazons jump shot:D not planning to train this year. getting 15-16 OD and 15 Pa this year and 8-9 IS. Those kind of players can run LI very efficient and they doesnt cost toomuch salary. Btw i got 10-11 driving and handling without training, so it isnt so bad, and on the plans ill maybe train it if my players wont be capped after JS training.

Last edited by Gajus Julijus Cezaris at 2/12/2012 2:52:16 AM

From: kr1shna

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Date: 2/12/2012 7:44:36 AM
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Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: proficient
Outside Def.: prodigious Handling: sensational
Driving: prominent Passing: prolific
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: respectable

This is a guy that I bought when he was 18 and trained him up - his starting point was similar to yours. He also is of allstar potential and I was able to train him up to this level midway through his 4th training year.
He still serves me well.

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Date: 2/12/2012 10:11:48 AM
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From: CrazyEye

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Date: 2/13/2012 5:33:28 AM
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1. i like to start with the defensiv skill with my trainee to, i maybe would start varying the training when he reach 10(prioritizing his biggest weaknesses). i am not a big fan of pure Pointguards, but i mostly play with two Comboguards or PG at my club. HI would train handling with 1 on 1, with could be a backup training when the minutes for 1 position training don't fit.

2. i think you won't make it. 12 pops are possible, but there are some slower trainings involved.

3. i am pretty sure about it, my third guard is also just an allstar and play well even on highest level -> (3165648)

Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: prominent
Outside Def.: tremendous Handling: prolific
Driving: sensational Passing: tremendous
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: awful Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: proficient Free Throw: marvelous

that how he is looking.

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From: Koperboy

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Date: 2/13/2012 11:41:59 AM
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I'd train his HA first (either with one position HA or 1 on 1) and then go to his OD and PA to counter elastic effect.

But you probably won't be able to get OD and PA to desired levels in this season.

From: Kennedy

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Date: 2/13/2012 1:38:21 PM
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1. I think it's great, but then I love defense. Train shooting at some point, but you can do that when he's 19 or 20.

2. Very, very doubtful. Let me share my own trainee, Dimas Conanan (for the record, I have had a level 5 trainer for him the whole time). DC started out with 7/7/7/6/5/3. I trained passing up 2 pops, then OD for the rest of the season and got it to 12. That's all I did (I got some cross-training HA/DR pops, but still on your goal I would have been short 3 passing pops). Even doing single-position passing and OD, there's no way you get 5 pops in each of those skills in only one season in my experience. Someone else can correct me if I'm wrong which is very possible.

3. For the next few seasons and at your level, definitely. He can be a very good player even into D.III for certain. And if you get to a level where you need higher potential, you can sell him to a lower level team for a decent profit. I'd definitely hang on to him and train him.


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Date: 2/13/2012 6:49:01 PM
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I think he should change training every 1-2 weeks in order to avoid negative influence of the elastic effect. Anyway, most guard skills have cross training between each other.