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Alrighty... I have a suggestion that i think many people will agree on. Right now I am 17-2 along with another team who is also 17-2 but has a better PD rating right now. I believe PD is very important in my league right now (because it will decide the first and second seeds for both sides of my league probably) so it pisses me off when i am up by 25+ points and all my starters are sitting on the bench but the other team is still playing all 5 starters. I believe it should be like it is in the NBA where in the 4th if a team is behind by 25+ points with less than 10 minutes to play then their starters should also be sat down on the bench otherwise it is both unfair and unrealistic in my opinion. PD is very crucial for many leagues and if it is what is deciding seeds when the two teams have the same record then this needs to be changed so the starters on one team don't kill your PD. Either this or they need to find another better way of deciding seeds rather then PD. Do you guys agree with this? What are your thoughts?

E.B.W.

Poll:  Should Starters be sat down from both teams when the lead is out of reach for the losing team instead of just the winning teams?

I agree. In my league, Me and the other first place guy are fighting for out-right HCA. so now i'm fight and what hapens if he gets massive wins? then the PD gets shorter and shorter. idk why but I like it. what if you onl got a 15 PD lead? that's where it makes differences

don't know if the confusion is worth it, i mean currently also the other team is fighting for his PD on the same circumstances so it is not really unfair. And you had to agree, that also in the NBA in blowout situation the leading team second row, isn't out to kill the loosing team second row.

It is not bad when it comes, but imho not really necessary.

I agree. But not in order to protect PD of the good teams, but to help the bad teams. It's hard enough to come and get punished two times a week when you're outclassed by your opponents, the current system makes it even harder by complicating the gameshape management for those teams who lose a lot of games.
Garbage time should be for both teams (even if the winning team should but the second unit earlier than the losing team).

I understand with what you are saying and realize that he is probably dealing with the same thing but it's still unrealistic and in my league there have been 3 new teams added to which has made it unfair for me because i had to play the older stronger team and he didn't so he got an extra 20+ PD points because the team i originally played turned bot.. I think it would not only be better to change it not only because it would be more realistic and be less frustrating but it also helps the losing team with gameshape as Pho3niX stated. Personally i think going off PD is silly as is because a win is a win regardless of whether you win by 3 or 30 and it shouldn't be based of PD because then it just comes down to a contest of who can crush the lower teams by a larger margin. Of course now i am getting a bit off topic but basically what im trying to say is it should still be changed regardless of whether it is unfair or not because it makes it more realistic and helps the lower teams in leagues when they are getting crushed for it saves their game shape minutes.

what about we based the seeding on head-to-head.....winner of that gets first

what about we based the seeding on head-to-head.....winner of that gets first

head to head is in my eyes ugly here, and to be more concrete i say why:

- there are also comparision betwen the conferences, and homecourt advantage is big

- managing minutes is key to the game, since you often battle more then one team or don't know which team battle the head to head get decided, who have less trouble to field the best player in the matches.(easier opponent the specific week, over a season this is balancing it out)

- a point who also count for real life, if you land with the same record at the end of an season you obviously win as many games but most likely against other opponent. Why should be the team ranked first, which playing style fit better to the one in the comparision, when they probadly played better against other teams.

You want your Starters in, until they get hurt for 3 weeks, right before the playoff..... Then It won't matter.

This game is a lot about luck and little things decide which team wins the championship. Just like Dallas had great run (in 2011), with everyone clicking and peaking at the right time.

I do agree, that there should be an option to sit the starters or let them play in blowout (there could also be an option for big losses). I think most of the older teams, tend to still sit their best players. Often the great players tend to play 40+ minutes in close games. That creates GS problems, even with 2 games a week. You will also turn to the sit them option, when your first late blowout starter injury occures (and sticks).

I think when you actually get out of that IVdiv, there will be less teams going bot or new users joining the league during season. I myself had a bad schedule this season, that has killed my championship hopes. 2 teams from the other side decided to quit (for different reasons), that left me with low attendance easy home games, while all my rivals had them away. With chances to snatch wins from playing active managers at home. I also had my first true rival game away, leaving me with 1 ball in rival survey until the last game of the season. You just have to play with the cards you have been dealt and make the best out of it.

Last edited by Kukoc at 7/26/2012 5:54:06 PM

Couldn't we just add an option that says, "compete for PD"? That would allow either team, in case of a thrashing, the option of sitting their starters.

..or, even better, have the point margin to which the starters would be subbed in or out.

Last edited by Axis123 at 7/29/2012 8:19:57 AM

Sorry i totally disagree with this suggestion, mainly because there is something you can already do in the game to achieve this.

If im 17-2 and I know that PD is going to make a difference come playoff time and im coming into a round against a team who is 8th whom i know im going to smash, then what do i do? I set my starters as my bench/reserve, or I set two/three positions with no bench players and only dress 7/8 guys, depending on the situation.
That way come garbage time, the starters do stay in. And i rout the other team by 50 points. :) done this plenty of times in the past and its great. My best shooter keeps scoring points, keeps in the top10 for scoring in the league, i rout the other team, get a nice percentage boost, tra la la la la la oh happy days.
This is a genuine tactical situation in the game, which requires users to make tactical choices, to analyse the game before hand, understand their opponent, situation, and set a lineup accordingly, just like when you are trying to work out whether you should play ur SF at PF in order to combat another teams inside D presence, or whatever.

And yes i know the guys who play 48 mins, it means it will make it harder to manage GS for that week and i know one day that guy who is finishing 8th is going to CT you and you will suddenly lose, this is all part of the game and taking away tactical choices which we learn as we progress in experience in this game is not right as far as im concerned.

So - want ur startes to play more minutes ina game where Garbage time is going to take effect? Then do the above lineup setting. No need for BB to make a new option/button/tactic.

Hows that sound for a solution?