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Date: 8/9/2012 8:07:19 AM
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There are more than one users that feels that the BB representatives (LA, GM, BB, MOD) aren't doing what they should do, and they sure that the current mechanism where a BB-representative investigates its mate does not work.

It is not by chance that the police, for instance, has a separate department for investigating other police men.

Without BB-creators taking their part here, this feeling will always exist.
That is one of the reason that users seems to leave the game.

A product needs reliability, and currently, at this domain, it does not exists.
Handling a product does not mean only handling the product itself but the service providers of it.

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223285.4 in reply to 223285.1
Date: 8/9/2012 8:39:08 AM
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It is not by chance that the police, for instance, has a separate department for investigating other police men.


there are senior gm who can overule our decisions, and will be at least part of investigation against gm(who couldn't handle there case about themself).

There are more than one users that feels that the BB representatives (LA, GM, BB, MOD) aren't doing what they should do, and they sure that the current mechanism where a BB-representative investigates its mate does not work.


if you have the feeling that reply don't fit to the forum rules, please report them to a GM or to a Mod where you know that he is in charge. Or make a cheating ticket about it with a link to the thread.

if you think there was a wrong decision, especially about your cases you already know how to appeal, but first question yourself if there might be a reason for this decision. Since also the senior gm have plenty of work to do, and there are volunteer like the GM and LA(who are mostly pretty quick with the translations, which they are supposed to do).


Last edited by CrazyEye at 8/9/2012 8:41:12 AM

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223285.5 in reply to 223285.4
Date: 8/9/2012 9:19:25 AM
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It is not by chance that the police, for instance, has a separate department for investigating other police men.


there are senior gm who can overule our decisions, and will be at least part of investigation against gm(who couldn't handle there case about themself).
GM is GM is GM.
When a GM does not report another GM, there is no reason to use this method that proved to be rotten.

In case the creators of this game wants to have a successful product, they needs to take care not only about bugs at the products, but also about bugs and misbehavior of the products service guys (AKA - MODs, LAs, GMs, BBs).

And returning to the police example - the police inner-investigators are not part in any (relevant) way to the police.
They are not "playing" (do not have police activities other than inner-investigations) at the "game" (police).

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223285.6 in reply to 223285.5
Date: 8/9/2012 9:45:17 AM
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When a GM does not report another GM, there is no reason to use this method that proved to be rotten.


that don't happen much(for cheating on forum more often), but it also happens. But if you look at a group of hundred random user, the ' of user who got investigated during there career is low.

Also usually we don't report we mostly investigate, on report or when "alarm bell" rings. Random check of user are nearly exclusive for GM or GM candidates, before they become gm. So the GM are checked more closely then other users, even when your wisdom means something different.

In case the creators of this game wants to have a successful product, they needs to take care not only about bugs at the products, but also about bugs and misbehavior of the products service guys (AKA - MODs, LAs, GMs, BBs).


i would say they do, but probadly you know it better ;)

And returning to the police example - the police inner-investigators are not part in any (relevant) way to the police.
They are not "playing" (do not have police activities other than inner-investigations) at the "game" (police).


they are going to the same schools, mostly working in the police before going there etc. And then they investigated, other policemen work. I am pretty sure that is the same like here, even when a small community like this one it is hard to gurante that the people are mostly unrelated which we at least try as best as we could.
And BB won't pay anybody a laywer who get punished, also they won't pay external forces to get an unrelated view on there volunteer. But i am pretty sure, if you pay there salarys they could do.



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223285.7 in reply to 223285.6
Date: 8/9/2012 12:40:15 PM
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Non of what you wrote is true.

In case the owners of this game want it to evolve, they need happy customers. {and not just those from the first divisions}.

For that, they need to make sure that the service providers behaves properly, and currently the supervising does not do what it should, as it is being dealt by the same users with the same interest in common.

For that, they need to understand what the majority {once again - not the first division's managers majority} finds as the main drawback of this game.

Honestly, I'm not sure that they are still involve in the game, but if they do...

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223285.9 in reply to 223285.7
Date: 8/9/2012 1:06:25 PM
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closed, cause of typical pini claims.

I hoped at least the function, of the admistrative system get roughly clear for the reader who was interrest in the gm structure.

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223285.10 in reply to 223285.9
Date: 8/10/2012 1:41:40 AM
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And please, if you feel there is a problem with GM or Mod staff, report it through the correct channels. If you feel there is a problem with LA staff concerning the translations which cannot be resolved with talking to them directly, talk to GMs/BBs. If you feel there is a problem with BB staff, well then you may be out of luck but can't hurt talking to them. :-)

Contrary to what has been claimed, reports do not just go away. At least us regular GMs do not even have such powers. Each case is investigated and handled.