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From: Olgrey
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I am still unsure of what "Driving" is?

Is is simply the ability to create the shot and then JS, JR, or IS determine if the shot is good?
Or is it a combination of all these factors to dermine if a shot is good?
If it is a combination of all factors, how big a role is DR?
Finally, would you consider DR a primary skill for a player's success, or a secondary skill?

Thanks

From: Big Dogs

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This is from the Game Manual:
Driving: Allows the player to create his own shot without a good pass from a teammate. Better driving creates shots more often and creates better shots on average.


So from what I have seen and heard from other managers, driving consists of a player's combination of DR>HA>IS. To my knowledge, JS and JR don't determine the result of the drive. If anything, the level of JS/JR a player affects the decision-making process of whether to drive or shoot a jumper.

DR plays the biggest role.

If a player is a guard, then DR is a primary. For SFs, it is also needed, but is a secondary. PFs could also use it, but it is a secondary. Typical Cs don't use DR a lot, but it doesn't hurt to have some on them.

Last edited by Big Dogs at 1/5/2013 12:39:56 PM

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Driving is at best a secondary skill. Of course if you play LI more, than it is more important on your guards, but still not above OD or PA for a PG. Possibly as important as JR on the SG.

Point Guard
Primary Skills: Outside Defense, Passing, Jump Shot
Secondary Skills: Handling, Driving, Jump Range
Tertiary Skills: Rebounding, Inside Defense

Shooting Guard
Primary Skills: Outside Defense, Jump Shot, Jump Range
Secondary Skills: Handling, Passing, Driving
Tertiary Skills: Rebounding, Inside Defense

Small Forward (Outside Based)
Primary Skills: Outside Defense, Jump Shot
Secondary Skills: Inside Defense, Jump Range, Rebounding, Passing, Handling, Driving
Tertiary Skills: Inside Shot, Shot Blocking

Small Forward (Balanced)
Primary Skills: Outside Defense, Inside Defense, Jump Shot, Inside Shot
Secondary Skills: Rebounding, Passing, Jump Range, Handling, Driving
Tertiary Skills: Shot Blocking

Small Forward (Inside Based)
Primary Skills: Outside Defense, Inside Shot, Inside Defense, Rebounding
Secondary Skills: Jump Shot, Passing, Handling, Driving
Tertiary Skills: Jump Range, Shot Blocking

Power Forward
Primary Skills: Inside Defense, Rebounding, Inside Shot, Jump Shot
Secondary Skills: Outside Defense, Driving, Handling, Passing
Tertiary Skills: Shot Blocking, Jump Range

Center
Primary Skills: Inside Defense, Inside Shot, Rebounding
Secondary Skills: Handling, Passing, Jump Shot, Shot Blocking
Tertiary Skills: Driving, Outside Defense, Jump Range

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From: primoss

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If your player has a high skill on driving,he can create better shots, outside and inside.
I think we are talking guards here,so he also needs some IS ,that's very important cause he likes to go inside and take shot.
And then it's also usefull your player handling is high ,otherwise there is a risk that he will lose the ball.
For guards driving and handling are primary skills in mij opinion.

From: Olgrey

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OK, Thanks for the replys.

So for guards, all forum posts always list OD as crucial for a guard.
BUT does ID on a guard have any value and/or help a guard limit the effectivness of another guard/player driving?

From: Big Dogs

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BUT does ID on a guard have any value and/or help a guard limit the effectivness of another guard/player driving?


Of course. This has value in terms of production in the game, but another good thing is that it doesn't cost too much on the salary. It can limit the effectiveness of DR of opposing guards, and can also help defend better against inside shots.

From: primoss

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OD is very important no doubt about that,I think this skill should be the highest for Guards,but if you play LI then 7 or 8 IS
is a big +

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I think some people take the Primaries/Secondaries a bit too seriously.

I think to be better with your young talent down the road, you must focus on pumping up some of their secondaries too based on the type of system you run. For example, Look Inside requires a lot of shots from guards that will be inside in comparison to other offenses (keep in mind, DR still has slightly more shots, and JS has considerably more, but IS is still more prevalent in this offense than others). I myself would find it hard to buy a 26+ year old with 1's and 2's at his secondaries. Theres just too mcuh evidence there to suggest that i'm missing a significant enough percentage of my shots if i dont at least put a little into the player at his secondaries.

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The safe thing to do: don't buy players with ANY skill lower than 4.
Or before a trainee approaches the cap, have every stat 4 or higher.

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From: GM-hrudey

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I actually think a team could suffice with less OD then normal teams tend to have if you filled up the "lack" of it by adding PA instead on all positions. You can get a lot of PA for the same cost as a OD pop cost salary and potential wise on all positions expect PG.
This is pretty much just a theory though and i know a lot would say it wont help. But i strongly believe so and havent seen a team try it yet so.
It may be hard at the top level of competition like B3 but against lower competition i think it just may work. You'll get a team with less salary that gets a lot more efficient with its scoring.


I think more than that is that the concept of piling on a ton of OD at the PG and SG, and some OD at SF, and ignoring it entirely at PF and C is probably detrimental. I definitely think that having good PA at all five positions on the court is more effective than having two guards with super high passing as well.