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240439.1
Date: 4/11/2013 5:01:59 PM
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Currently I am training three players with the heights of 6'2", 6'5", and 6'6". I am having a dilemma between choosing One vs One Guards or One vs One Forwards. After looking at some databases, it seems as if One vs One Forwards is MUCH more popular than that of Guards. However, One vs One Guards seemingly fits the guard position better.

What I am trying to do with my team is develop the PG/SG/SF positions. After completing One vs One for a while, I will work a little bit on passing that way they will all help each other's efficiency. I run a Run and Gun offense. I also am wondering if Inside Shot has a large enough impact on Guards? My best trainee is the 6'2" one, so take that into consideration. Please vote and state the reasoning on why! Thanks!
Poll:  What training type would you consider better for training 3 shooting guards?
One vs One - Guards
One vs One - Forwards

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240439.2 in reply to 240439.1
Date: 4/11/2013 5:07:04 PM
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The main reasons that the one on one forwards is more popular is that it trains IS, which goes hand in hand with Look Inside being the predominant tactic offensively in the game right now, plus it doesn't train JR, which can increase salary quite a bit - especially since people playing LI don't want to take threes. If you're going to be running a run and gun offense or really anything primarily outside and are committed to that, one on one for guards is probably better - it's just that since IS is free on guards and JR is not and outside shooting is so unpopular, it's not the common choice. ;)

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240439.3 in reply to 240439.1
Date: 4/11/2013 6:40:05 PM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
Here's what you get from the 2 - these were my trainees
Age x Height and skills
The numbers are pct towards a pop

1x1 for F DR HA IS JS
19 x 6.8 52 40.5 18.5 20
20 x 6.9 49 35.5 16.5 17.5
23 x 6.10 33 24.5 10 11
25 x 6.4 20 16 9 7.5
27 x 6.5 12 9 5 5

1x1 for G DR HA JS
19 x 6.8 47 40 36
20 x 6.9 44 37 34
23 x 6.10 30 25 23
25 x 6.4 19 15.5 14
27 x 6.5 11 9 8


Last edited by Headless T Gunner at 4/11/2013 6:40:59 PM

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240439.4 in reply to 240439.3
Date: 4/12/2013 2:10:53 AM
Kings XI Punjab
ASL
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Kings XI Punjab II
Is that data right ? I doubt!

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240439.5 in reply to 240439.2
Date: 4/12/2013 2:15:30 AM
Kings XI Punjab
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Another reason for it to be common among outside tactic lovers is, as it trains inside shoot and good inside shoot on guards helps in better finishing of driving layups in slow outside offences.

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240439.6 in reply to 240439.4
Date: 4/12/2013 2:16:06 AM
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If he's been keeping data about his own players, I would believe him for sure. But it's hard to apply on other players unless they have a very similar skillset (besides height and age) as elastic effect, both positive and negative, influence the training speed.

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240439.7 in reply to 240439.6
Date: 4/12/2013 2:25:00 AM
Kings XI Punjab
ASL
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Kings XI Punjab II
And even hidden attribute, players with same skillset can even show deviations as one is a fast learner and other is slower.
I was saying in general about that data, I'm not myself sure about that data but it feels something wrong to me.

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240439.8 in reply to 240439.4
Date: 4/12/2013 3:56:37 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
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Those are the EXACT numbers from the training site
as pertaining to my players ages and heights
There are no numbers that anyone could have given that are MORE accurate
much easier to stand back and scoff than to do some homework and help out

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240439.10 in reply to 240439.8
Date: 4/12/2013 5:09:50 AM
Kings XI Punjab
ASL
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Kings XI Punjab II
much easier to stand back and scoff than to do some homework and help out

Thanks ;)
and about data I said I'm not sure.
Lets leave it here, I don't want to spoil this thread.

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240439.11 in reply to 240439.10
Date: 4/12/2013 7:01:47 AM
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Ya, there's only 9000+ uploads of data for 1v1 training. Gee, the data couldn't possible be right (or very close to being right for age, height, elastic, etc)

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