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From: D_Call
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Date: 5/6/2013 6:47:42 PM
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So I have been reading alot of into training and I always see people talking about how they will train OD and PA for guards first and IS and ID for big man first. That doesn't make any sense to me since all of those our 1 postion training. JS for guards and RB for Big man makes more sense to be since both of them are 2 postion training so it will go by slower at first but it would also go signafically faster when he is 18 than lets say 20. So it would be a double negative to train Rebound and Jump shot later on I would think. Or am I just thinking too much into this?

Excuse me if this doesn't make any sense

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241407.2 in reply to 241407.1
Date: 5/6/2013 6:53:14 PM
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If I were you, I'd download the spreadsheet that shows the training simulator. In there you will find a tab showing coef. It will give you an idea of how the training values work.

For instance two position training one on one guards/fowards train a lot of skill points per session. However, outside defense is probably all-around the best skill but trains the slowest overall.

Anyway, I wish I would have started with some idea of various training speeds Then I probably would have kept my HOF instead of selling him for easy cash ha!

From: jeffjeff

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241407.3 in reply to 241407.1
Date: 5/6/2013 8:12:07 PM
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Your way of thinking makes sense, but the thing is in this game, the training speeds for each skill are different, and training speeds deteriorate by %'s each year the player gets older. The reason why most people train OD the first season is because OD is one of the (if not the) slowest skill to train. Add in the deterioration from age and it makes it even slower which is why people train it first usually. Training defence in general is cheaper than training offence in terms of salary increase per skill level increase. Also JS and RB are a couple of the more salary intensive skills. (i.e. what's the point of having someone who can take shots or someone who can rebound when they can't play any defence and let the opponents score, which makes RB useless, and on top of this they have an inflated salary due to a lot of JS and RB)

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241407.4 in reply to 241407.1
Date: 5/6/2013 10:21:52 PM
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Wouldn't 1 position training when they are 18 be a"double positive", then?

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241407.5 in reply to 241407.1
Date: 5/7/2013 1:00:58 PM
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I think both these theories are ultimately the wrong direction. I would train the weak guard skills for a big man first and for a guard I'd train his weaker big man skills first. Especially IS and ID.

As for the 2 schools of thought that you're asking about, I guess it depends if you can give them single position training or not. If you can get your best trainee 48 minutes at PG or C then it's almost always best to train single position skills and JS and RB are not those skills. And if you plan to sell that player in a season or 2, I guarantee you that they'll have far more value with high defensive skills than high JS or RB.

Last edited by Beener not Beanerz at 5/7/2013 1:01:19 PM

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241407.6 in reply to 241407.1
Date: 5/7/2013 7:39:18 PM
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The training simulator he's talking about is here: (229484.1)

Some freak with too much time on his hands and no idea when to stop feeding his OCD must've made it. ;) But people say it's useful.

Join the official USA offsite forum for helper tools, camaraderie and advice! (http://s3.zetaboards.com/BuzzerBeater_USA_NT/index/) – Builder of the Training Simulator: (229484.1) – Former host of the Golden Clam Invitational (http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/fedoverview.aspx?fe...)
From: D_Call
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241407.7 in reply to 241407.6
Date: 5/7/2013 8:46:00 PM
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Thank you everyone helped me out alot.

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241407.9 in reply to 241407.8
Date: 5/8/2013 9:06:10 PM
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Yeah I think your right. I always like to build the D first in my Trainees, I find if I can keep them on the floor a full 48 mins without fouling out, I get regular 3 Trainee full training weeks, hence training is sped up by efficiency.

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241407.11 in reply to 241407.10
Date: 5/9/2013 4:56:12 PM
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Ugh, you just reminded me of how I accidentally didn't set up my line up for scrimmage because I mis read the time zone differences >.> and now my players have <48 or about 100 minutes each :(