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Date: 7/29/2013 9:47:14 PM
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USA: 2359 users.
Egypt: 36 users
On March 7, 34 users were simultaneously online on the USA NT offsite.

Yet,
Egypt: 124
USA: 120.

USA NT has not made semifinals since season 16 under jfarb.

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246079.2 in reply to 246079.1
Date: 7/29/2013 9:54:27 PM
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May I ask what are YOU doing to help the USANT besides complaining?

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Date: 7/29/2013 10:28:53 PM
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Complaining? Me? Why I'd never do that... Just pointing out something interesting.
As far as helping out, I have plans on acquiring and training a great American draft prospect next season. Also I have helped out in the past on my old account. There is one very talented US NT/ NBBA player(who was a key part of a U-21 world championship team) that would probably not be around if not for some of my efforts. I'll leave it at that.

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246079.4 in reply to 246079.3
Date: 7/29/2013 11:02:38 PM
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Nielsen?

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
From: Turtle

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246079.5 in reply to 246079.4
Date: 7/29/2013 11:18:35 PM
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Maybe, but Coco did all of the heavy lifting on Nielsen in terms of out-of-position training and getting the secondaries up to par for a NT PF. His previous owner jacked up primaries and trained him exactly one game out of position, a scrimmage at the beginning of his 19yo season when he apparently trained JS. So I hope he's talking about someone else, because getting lucky enough to draft Nielsen hardly qualifies him to criticize the NT. It would be very ironic and slightly hypocritical in fact for him to criticize the NT for not being versatile enough to dominate the opposition like he seems to expect, considering that his previous owner pretty much trained him to a stereotypical "cookie-cutter LI build". And it would also be hypocritical for him to criticize the NT managers, since he ignored direct requests to not continue training IS but to train something else instead, since more IS was unnecessary and had negative cap consequences.

So for his sake, I really hope he's talking about another player and not trying to take credit for Nielsen.

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246079.6 in reply to 246079.3
Date: 7/29/2013 11:30:47 PM
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Complaining? Me? Why I'd never do that.

Then what would you call your latest posts regarding the NT because to me it seems like complaining. I'm sure I'm not the only one to. If it ain't complaining then it's bitching

The very talented big he's talking about can't be Nielsen. Nielsen was trained by Coach Storm(wherever he is now)

From: Coolbobj

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246079.7 in reply to 246079.5
Date: 7/30/2013 12:32:56 AM
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Not taking full credit for Nielsen but I knew the guy who owned him. That guy would have been a complete noob w/o my help. That guy was intent on making Len into a "superscoring" Amare Stoudamire type. It was his choice, not mine.

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246079.8 in reply to 246079.6
Date: 7/30/2013 12:40:53 AM
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Certainly not complaining or "bitching". I'm pointing out very strange problems with the NT. Its bizarre that it has sunk to these depths. Just opening it up to discussion.
Losing to 0-3 Egypt(even with TIE) shouldn't be accepted. The US should be a top 5 power in this game, it has the user base and resources to do so.

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246079.9 in reply to 246079.8
Date: 7/30/2013 12:57:53 AM
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What would you suggest that we dont already do to increase the amount of users that care about the NT? I think thats what a lot of these people are taking issue with. This entire Worlds tournament you've been very vocal when we've lost, even asking if Sleet was going to be ousted as coach at one point, and thats really all you've said. I think unless you follow up your comments with ideas, or any sort of commentary other than "Our team sucks and we lost again", people would take it as something other than bitching.


Also the USA has never, since the inception of NT play been a top 5 power in this game. So saying we "should" be one is a bit of a stretch. At the Olympics, just because we are a large country doesn't mean we are going to do well in every single sport. Certainly the ones we hold an interest in we do well in, and rightfully should and do complain when we fail. But to expect soccer gold medals year in and year out, when the USA lags behind several smaller European countries in interest is unreasonable.

Egypt may have 36 users, but I would bet that about half of them are almost fully interested in the NT. Where as in the USA, realistically, there are probably less than 50 users that play a role in what the NT does, and probably 5-ish that would use their club team to help our interests. So I also suggest tempering your expectations to realistic levels. The truth is that this is, i believe, our best team since that season 16 semifinal appearance, and an unfortuante start and some bad luck has hurt us. We are headed in a great direction, but this isn't easy. Winning takes time, as I'm sure you and your 0-13 record can attest to.

From: E.B.W.

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246079.10 in reply to 246079.1
Date: 7/30/2013 1:33:00 AM
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You're personal team has never been to a semi-final either. You are 0-13 in IV and are doing nothing to help the NT, so please... there is no need for dumb posts like that. The USA has never been a Top contender for National Teams so I didn't expect them to win honestly, I was just hoping for a decent run. Did it happen? No. At least I am trying to help out our national teams though. Your two trainees are from Latvia and Spain, yet if you care so much about USA's NT then go find a 18 year old hall of famer trainee that is american and make him the star of the future NT team. As others have said, even though Egypt has very few users in it's country. Almost all of them are probably a presence in helping their NT become more successful. I have not seen you do one thing that helps out NT or comment once about a good win that we had.

Murray/Harris/MPJ/Grant/Jokic - 2020 NBA Champs
From: Coolbobj

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246079.11 in reply to 246079.10
Date: 7/30/2013 1:50:56 AM
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LOL. This is a new account. I used to manage a team called Illinois B.C that was in D.III before I quit. My team is 0-13 because I am intentionally losing. Considering the US's user base and resources, they should definitely be a top 10 NT. I do intend to get a US player next season. My current two trainees are cash cows. And the gap between US and Egypt is too wide to make excuses to be honest.