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So I've been told I have a good prospect.

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From: Gamer
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Date: 9/17/2013 2:50:54 PM
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Harvey Davila

Weekly salary: $ 4 953
Role: draws a paycheck
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DMI: 0
Age: 18
Height: 6'10" / 208 cm
Potential: MVP
Game Shape: respectable

Jump Shot: mediocre
Jump Range: average
Outside Def.: average
Handling: inept
Driving: inept
Passing: average
Inside Shot: respectable
Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: respectable
Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: respectable
Free Throw: strong

Experience: atrocious

I have a superior trainer (no fitness). Any advice on how to train this guy up?

From: natellio

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Date: 9/17/2013 3:41:07 PM
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Yes, that is a good prospect. You'll get a trainer for the US National Team working with you for sure.

You'll have to decide between a couple avenues, but if it were me, I'd train him to be a PF. He's got a great base of skills for secondaries, and with his height and potential, he's not as well suited for a C. That being the case, I would focus on any of the following: OD, ID, 1 on1 (forwards). Or, you can focus on primaries for the U21 team and do IS, ID, and 1 on 1 (forwards).

But really, he's a stud. You could train anything you want and no one would complain too much.

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Date: 9/17/2013 3:57:02 PM
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One of the most well-rounded prospects I've ever seen. How do you want to train this guy?

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Date: 9/17/2013 4:19:14 PM
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I'm liking the PF suggestion. But I will need to train guard skills first to keep his salary as low as possible for the first year. Then go all out on the PF skills after that. How far should I take his guard skills to?

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Date: 9/17/2013 4:22:11 PM
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My suggestion is to sell him and put that money into your arena. By the time you start using him effectively to win you games you won't be able to afford him.

To me that would be a better long term solution.

From: natellio

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Date: 9/17/2013 4:56:41 PM
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Actually, the salary won't take a huge bump from 18-19 years old. Once you get into popping from 13 to 14 in primary skills is where it starts getting expensive for a D5 player.

For example, if you were train this whole season, half Inside Scoring and half Inside Defense, good ole Harvey would look something like:

6/6/6/4/4/6 12/11/7/8

That'd be 11 pops and would only take his salary to around $15k. Still plenty manageable for D5.

But you're right in general. Secondary training is cheaper. Bu, keep in mind that if you don't pump primaries early, then he may not be a U21 candidate. But, U21 isn't always best for your team or the NT.

Get on the offsite forum and work closely with whoever your scout is. They'll be contacting you in the next couple days.

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Date: 9/17/2013 5:10:29 PM
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But, U21 isn't always best for your team or the NT.

This would probably sadden Fewmit as I'm sure he'd love to have this guy carry a squad in the future but I agree with your statement Natellio. I think if there ever was a prospect who has the perfect start to ignore the U21 team and plan to be an impact NT player this guy is him.

I DM'd and suggested to start with secondaries and if this guy's team can promote as he trains then he wont have to worry about an unsustainable salary and he could have a future NT PF on his hands. That's a long way out but its a possibility.

Also, you have to look at the fact that the out of position training has to get done eventually if you want the full package. I have a U21 hopeful that I will have to do out of position stuff with for his entire 22yo season as I couldn't with him in pursuit of U21 and can't still during the U21 season or he'll be passed up and end up dropping off the team. I'm going to have a 50k+ guard I have to play at C for as close to a full season as possible while still competing and that'll be rough; it's that or leave him salary inefficient with no secondaries and watch him get run over by the guys who took the time and did the painful training with their guys. Not to mention, since it wasn't done when he was young it may take 2 season to reach my goals for him; it would have been much faster and cheaper to do it first and ignore the U21. Of course, that's my personal situation affect how I see this situation so it may or may not be the best advice but it's the way I see it.

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Date: 9/17/2013 5:25:01 PM
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I have two PF trainees on my team and went 1v1 F all last season and this season I'm doing OD/PA. If you want to make him a great PF, I suggest this.

From: E.B.W.

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Date: 9/17/2013 8:19:46 PM
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haha well since I was the guy who told you what a nice player you have I figured I'd pitch in. THIS TRAINEE IS AMAZING. The best well rounded big man I have ever seen as an 18 year old. He could easily be trained into a U21 PF/C. Big men with this good of stamina, secondaries and free throws is very very rare. I would make him a PF. Considering he is already solid all around, I would just look at getting his OD up to 8 (3 pops) and ID up to 11 (4 pops) then go into some 1v1 for forwards. This guy is very special so make good use of him. I'm glad I convinced you to post him here

Murray/Harris/MPJ/Grant/Jokic - 2020 NBA Champs
From: E.B.W.

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Date: 9/17/2013 8:22:11 PM
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Another thing to keep in mind. If you sold him he could probably go for over 1.5 million in my opinion, but ultimately he is your guy and he could become the core of your team so I'll let you weigh the options.

Murray/Harris/MPJ/Grant/Jokic - 2020 NBA Champs
From: Calum

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Date: 9/17/2013 8:59:05 PM
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Nice player.

I agree with EBW, but also consider his potential cap. Despite his almost perfect starting skills, he may never be an elite NT PF. Reason? Cap at around $150k salary (potentially lower). He could be an incredible U21 PF, at which point you could switch to secondaries and make him an inside SF. Either way, look to pump that OD and ID as much as possible, and switch to 1v1 for forwards.

It hurts me to say, but his value on the TL is probably more than he's worth to keep (especially being american), but, a lot of the fun in this game is in the training, so making this guy a top 100 BB player could well be more rewarding than winning NBBA. At some point, it's likely you'll have to sell him anyway (if you don't promote every 2 seasons), unless you have flawless training, he could well go for less than selling him right now.

Either way, phenomenal prospect. I'm sure you'll get some great advice moving forward. If you do test the market, make sure you list him for a v high price to start with.