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Date: 1/7/2014 10:44:06 PM
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Why cant this rule be for all team not just lower league teams.

Me personally I find this rule very harsh on small ball clubs, who is to dictate team income to start and choices for his/her team to start.

Again every old player is looking for one last pay day and one last championship. Every young team need a solid vet and income. The rules explains it not realistic for a older player to come back to small ball club is highly false, Didn't Michael Jordan come back to the losing wizards. Dr j came back for 1 last championship with Moses Malone.

I could go on and on about who came back to small ball club for 1 last championship or for the money. Why would small ball club pass up the chance to sign Kobe Bryantm if the laker's let him go. If the small ball club has the funds to give, they will attain kobe bryants for the ticket sales.

If this young ball club can hold the wage and the older player salary decrease over time then who is it hurting? If this young ball club put cheap draft youth around him, Agian how is that a bad things? Is' that not what every sport team that plays does.

Get a solid veteran to play with the up coming youth from the market?

A veteran team, on the game don't mean they have good growth knowledge either. a good player wont play for 50/50 bad ball club either. So why not make this rule a little more for everybody, why just use it on lower league teams.

the rules should apply to everyone ,no matter the league. not just a few.. When you separate the rules you create a embalance of power.



Last edited by Mr. Glass at 1/8/2014 5:56:59 PM

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253905.3 in reply to 253905.2
Date: 1/8/2014 1:44:18 PM
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This is the equivalent of the losing Wizards (28449). You, on the other hand, are the team from around the corner. Your championship is like winning a pie eating contest in a dairy farm, not exactly enticing to continue a career.

This rule is for all the clubs. The scale is just different and I clearly don't need to buy a player with a fifth of my salary limit. Few minutes ago, I saw a D4 team with a relatively good World Ranking having a bid on a 220.000$ salary player, this is wasting money for him and shows that the limit aren't that limiting.

If Kobe Bryant sign in a German D3 teams after leaving the Lakers, I will personnally ask the BB to remove that rules from the game.

You can already get solid veterans around your youngsters. Tell me what's your limit and I will tell you that's a solid veteran.


While I agree with pretty much everything you said, David Beckham.

Though to be honest, I guess the MLS isn't soccer/football's equivalent to D IV in BB, though they may reach that someday!

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253905.4 in reply to 253905.2
Date: 1/8/2014 6:42:55 PM
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opinion are debatable this why I wrote this.

If lower leagues chamionships are not valid to the game, then why create championship for each league. If its a pie eating contest in the lower divison, then why waste the time to create playoffs and championship for div3 and below. WHy not just let B3 the real championship. If lower leagues are meaningless then why are the restriction so hard on lower league team when higher league are more meaningful to BB over all?

Again I attack your opinion but not you personally. I don't find any validity in your "prompt speech: if I can call it that. . Brandon jenning played for bad over seas team before coming to nba. Many European basketball player have played for major championship in euro team and come nba to play for much smaller bad market teams in usa. At old age and young, A.Sabonis is one player that come to mind,while tony kukoc is exeception to the fact to moot.

Btw kobe Bryant played over seas at age 16 for a bad French/paris team in his youth. So again so how is a older player from a championship caliber don't want come play for bad team in the lower market bracket of sports. This defeats the its realistic approach.

I saw a guys in your league and many others top leagues buying youth for $3500-10k$, How can that will be worth a dam for those leagues of his play in strength , where are the restriction on that. A championship team deserve championship caliber players. ? No

Its free market or is it... How is it free market when lower team cant purchase whom they want to. But a higher base team can buy player at any price. Btw no one said a pie eating contest was easy because there are rivals , how many have you won in real life.? I have'nt won any. I cant eat 59 pie in 3 mins.. But assume you can since your saying it easy and using it as example.

If this rule is going to restrict buys then it should restrict sales as well/But that wouldnt be free market would it. Therefore disgree this rule is for everybody . It for those at the bottom to do a weak draft every year and train train train.

I'm small you dictate small team success and road to the top. Instead of make a fair market, it create rules for certian teams to succeed. If its harder for team to buy its way to the top than train. Then what is the problem.? No matter how we twist it, teams buy championships, if we invest in the BB draft,we are buying a championship for the future of our teams. So what the difference does it make what level of play your own.

If none is dictating rules on ways of play , then why do we have these rules?? Again im not attacking you, just your debatable opinioned . I don't see any valid reason to restrict buy's of players . My example is a b3 championship team should not be allowed to buy eight 3,500k$ players, If the lower team is not allowed to buy eight, 250K$ players what the difference beyond cost?

How is it any different , One can do free market and other cannot because one is championship caliber or ben here longer. We say championship caliber team??. How is team of 3500$ player in top league for B3 winner championship caliber? Some would call that tanking, farming. But let not get into that because its pie eating contest, and some are the poor viewers of lower league to watch others eat the pie and wait their turn .

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253905.5 in reply to 253905.4
Date: 1/8/2014 8:26:36 PM
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Again I attack your opinion but not you personally. I don't find any validity in your "prompt speech: if I can call it that. . Brandon jenning played for bad over seas team before coming to nba. Many European basketball player have played for major championship in euro team and come nba to play for much smaller bad market teams in usa. At old age and young, A.Sabonis is one player that come to mind,while tony kukoc is exeception to the fact to moot.


They came to play in the premier basketball league in the entire freaking world, though. They're not coming overseas to play in the Southwest New Jersey Semi-Pro league.

The simple fact is that if there's a player your team can not purchase because of this feature, then you've been prevented from making a stupid mistake. The number of teams that have been devastated economically because of these stupid purchases is more than sufficient to justify this change.

(edit: And at your current world rank, you can buy players with salaries up to 150000 at least. If you can't figure out how to win without buying 150k salaried players, my condolences)

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Date: 1/8/2014 9:10:57 PM
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Who else is ready to hit up the supermarket for some pie? Apple? Pumpkin? Should I start a poll?


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Date: 1/9/2014 1:25:10 AM
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Your point in invalid at best. You attack me in your post when every thing I said was a fact. I haven't mention you once in topic in negative manner. To sit here and try twist the facts I just said of life for basketball player going to lower teams is ill of you basket ball knowledge, and is laughable.

If you think the charlotte bobcat could get every euro title unbeaten in every euro league out here in the world. Then I say again laughable. Who is to sit here and say which is the premiere league of the world. Nba is the most popular not , a lot of euro teams have better talent.. Usa talent lose the Olympics versus those same players your saying are weak.

It has nothing to do with stupid mistakes of the managers. It have every thing to do with dictating other ways of play. How many rules will they force down on lower leagues teams throat for sake of fair ness. Then you expect them to stay around? Let be realistic here. Since your dwelling in opinions of your mind when presented the facts.. Your in league 2. So I doubt you give damn about a rules that effect league 4 and below..

I highly doubt you care or give damn because you lined your team with u21 like players and some bought , but dont want anyone to say anything about it. You don't any one to dictate your finances, you don't anyone to touch what you started. But its ok to do that to other's below you in lower divisions. That on line of communism my friend. it's not free economy. Taxing people on player in their own budget with no salary contracts for these players. Bid on a player and bid money don't go towards his contract it just go to the seller, and manager still has to pay the player wage with tax. Who you think is hit harder? why should any have to pay a tax ,if they bought player whole sale. Isn't that player already taxed?

No one can make it but a few, it has nothing to do with how I play. But thats everything to do withlower league teams being able win games in a fair manner. So what ,!! they bought a player for 5 million, who earned that money? who are you and many other to say its not fair and what is fair for lower league teams?. Who put them in charge of lower league finances?


Last time I checked the manager who create the team is sole owner and is the one who dictate finance,s it written write in start up guide. How is the game going turn around and say we know what best for you can't buy this type of player. The game is built on mistakes to positive deeds, not to positive deeds to bone crushing mistakes .That the point you don't understand. If they don't want to train players. who are me , you or anyone else to dictate how they play BB.?

That's the joy of free market. There is no joy in communism or pushing the game toward fasict ways

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253905.9 in reply to 253905.8
Date: 1/9/2014 2:13:05 AM
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It not contradictory point, he came to play for a small market ball club( the bucks), from leaving a good one, which you said no good player does . When he could stayed in euro on a better team.


The reason why nba player don't want to go over seas is they have to pay double tax on income. Rather than vise versa.

Yes there is big name star interest in small market teams.. I can 100% assure you of that Give a good reason a small market ball club would not be interested in a big name players. small market team go after the best big name players they can afford, they try to attract them to the team to win. It does not matter if they are winner , all that matter is they want to win..

Orlando magic went out and got tracy mcgrady and grant hill both for 90+ million and tried to get Tim Duncun. all where on winning team at the time. Playoff teams. Orlando magic was a bad team and is considered small market.

1S0 Is not enough for any good player on BB in my opinion. Good player start at 250k or better.

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Date: 1/9/2014 1:14:20 PM
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If you think the charlotte bobcat could get every euro title unbeaten in every euro league out here in the world. Then I say again laughable. Who is to sit here and say which is the premiere league of the world. Nba is the most popular not , a lot of euro teams have better talent.. Usa talent lose the Olympics versus those same players your saying are weak.


Tell you what - if you think there's another league that's superior in quality to the NBA, please make that argument. The simple fact is that the best players in the world end up in that league because, you know, it's the premier basketball league in the world. And I'm not belittling the European players at all, nor the European leagues - they have a fine standard of play and obviously develop great players.

It has nothing to do with stupid mistakes of the managers. It have every thing to do with dictating other ways of play. How many rules will they force down on lower leagues teams throat for sake of fair ness. Then you expect them to stay around? Let be realistic here. Since your dwelling in opinions of your mind when presented the facts.. Your in league 2. So I doubt you give damn about a rules that effect league 4 and below..

I highly doubt you care or give damn because you lined your team with u21 like players and some bought , but dont want anyone to say anything about it. You don't any one to dictate your finances, you don't anyone to touch what you started. But its ok to do that to other's below you in lower divisions.


I am going to demonstrate restraint here, because there's no need to put our valued GMs/EGMs through the hassle that typing my raw impressions would cause. (And even less-valued EGMs like Perpete probably don't deserve that ). All that I will say is that if you think I support this rule because it might keep you down, you're ridiculous - you do a very effective job of keeping yourself down. All I will say is that my entire roster's salary when I promoted from IV was 133k - which you're topping with just your top three players - and you're complaining because you can't buy a player whose individual salary is over 150k? I have to admit, if it were just about keeping you down, I'd much rather let you waste your money on ridiculous salaries like that - it'd be fun to see how much money you could lose trying to keep yourself in III. But too many new teams have bought too many big salary guys and had their team torpedoed to make it worthwhile.

No one can make it but a few, it has nothing to do with how I play. But thats everything to do withlower league teams being able win games in a fair manner. So what ,!! they bought a player for 5 million, who earned that money? who are you and many other to say its not fair and what is fair for lower league teams?. Who put them in charge of lower league finances?


You can buy a player for $20M, if you want, as long as his salary is under 150k/week (though, obviously, if you overbid ridiculously you can be fined or banned, though don't let that stop you!). You can use your precious money however you like, except that in this one particular instance you can't buy players whose salary is simply far too great for your level of competition.

Incidentally, communism would be where all of the arena revenues/ transfer revenues / wages / etc would be allocated evenly throughout the league, and players would be assigned to teams based on what that team needs. It's not a synonym for an economic decision you don't agree with, no matter how many blowhards on talk radio may lead one to believe otherwise.