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284837.1
Date: 2/21/2017 6:21:20 AM
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We all know that the anti-daytrading measures were ill conceived. They do not affect only daytrading, but also general trading for people who never seek to make any quick profit.

Back in the day myself and others suggested that the tax should be on profits, not on the sale value and perhaps a mechanism where the previous trainers get a share of the sale profit should have been introduced as well.
Profit tax = people looking to rebuild while selling at a loss should not be punished further
Share of profit: trainer gets a player from 3k to 150k salary deserves a little bit of future transfer profits (this DIRECTLY incentivises training and makes it more profitable)

Apart from these 2 things there is a fundamental problem with the system as designed. For daytraders it's better to fire players than to re-sell them without making a profit because if you fire the player it will not count in the calculation that increases your sale tax.
This manager (197874) likes to daytrade. He typically buys high potential players on the cheap and tries to re-sell them at 10 times the price. When he doesn't sell the player he fires him, see for example (41119088). Aside from the fact that Nickleon and the other GMs should do their job to prevent misleading advertising of players on forums, this kind of practice depletes the amount of trainable players and should be stopped.

If there is no appetite to change the sale tax and make it more logical as mentioned above, then please force managers to start auctions on 18yo-19yo players at 1k. This measure alone would have wiped out most of the daytrading (at least it would have wiped out those trying to scam new managers on draftees and trainees)

Last edited by Lemonshine at 2/21/2017 6:28:38 AM

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284837.2 in reply to 284837.1
Date: 2/21/2017 7:28:23 AM
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A 19 year old trained for an entire year, ATG potential, 70 TSP, listed at 1k? You must be dreaming.

I just +1'd your garbage time suggestion (a great one) and now I open this thread and read this (delirious).

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284837.3 in reply to 284837.2
Date: 2/21/2017 8:08:01 AM
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A 19 year old trained for an entire year, ATG potential, 70 TSP, listed at 1k? You must be dreaming.

I just +1'd your garbage time suggestion (a great one) and now I open this thread and read this (delirious).
Come on don't make the Headless T Gunner impersonation.

Explain to me why you would be harmed by this? Most players listed at 1k reach higher levels than if you start them at a very high price. And if you don't like the price level you can always bid and retain your player (although they also botched this when they introduced the GS hit after a sale, as it applies to people retaining players as well).

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284837.4 in reply to 284837.3
Date: 2/21/2017 11:12:36 PM
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Haha, believe me, I'm not HTG.

If you want to make that young, high potential, good TSP for age player 1k, why not just make every player listing 1k with your reasoning?

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284837.5 in reply to 284837.4
Date: 2/22/2017 5:36:25 AM
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Because the argument against daytrading has always been that it's done mostly with youngsters. Some daytraders admitted this openly.

Besides I'm not opposed to starting everyone at 1k, provided that you have no GS hit if you retain your players.