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Date: 6/21/2017 2:54:13 AM
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I'm pretty sure something weird has gone on. In England there's loads more teams in than usual (which will mean more rounds, which is fine if it's planned, but if not...). Lots of division IV teams included when d4 hasn't been active since a while before I started as far as I know.

Also noticed that where possible all the "human" teams are drawn at home against a bot? Except if that was intentional (and is a s39 change) that may have bugged and we have 2 all human games also, ha.

If the human teams avoiding each other is a change btw, it's horrible. The point of a cup if the randomness of it...

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Date: 6/21/2017 8:48:28 AM
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If the human teams avoiding each other is a change btw, it's horrible. The point of a cup if the randomness of it...


Sorry mate but would you like to play the first round of cup against a team from your category??
Is it fair you will not continue at the cup and a bot team will do it??

Soo everything is normal

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Date: 6/21/2017 9:42:07 AM
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Nah it isn't. The draw has always been random but this time it isn't random in any league.

I suppose they changed something re: cup draws that we will know in the News post.

Some of the unranked teams in Utopia are actually human teams because they created the team and stepped in the shoes of a bot, like this unlucky guy who's playing a D1 team: (276317)


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Date: 6/21/2017 10:28:32 AM
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I said specifically about the cup that the draw is normal because usually the first games are against bots

The draw has always been random but this time it isn't random in any league.


What do you mean its not random? from your side 3 teams left 3 teams came...Whats the problem? Can you explain it?

Some of the unranked teams in Utopia are actually human teams because they created the team and stepped in the shoes of a bot, like this unlucky guy who's playing a D1 team: (276317)


Here you want to say that the cup draw is not fair but also you said it isnt random...Make a decision

Since i started i think cup draw is fair and random after the first-second steps

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Date: 6/21/2017 6:38:10 PM
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He is saying that the cup draws used to be random, which means that in theory, two DI teams could face each other in the first round. Because of the large number of bots in the cup, this rarely happened though.
Now this season everyone is facing bots in the first round. This is probably because of a new feature that secures that bot teams are eliminated as fast as possible by making sure that bots only face humans (not 'bot vs bot' games).

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Date: 6/21/2017 7:01:01 PM
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I'll try to make it as simple as possible, since you seem to have some issue understanding what's being written

Sorry mate but would you like to play the first round of cup against a team from your category??
Yes he clearly made the point that the random draws made the cup interesting. Both me and, I believe, Bergkamp have played D1 vs D1 games in the first round in the past.

I said specifically about the cup that the draw is normal because usually the first games are against bots
And I said specifically that you are wrong, because the draw is random. Some bots are selected to round the numbers but the draw is random and you can get bot vs bot and D1 team v D1 team. So no, the first games are not usually against bots, they are usually random, you might get a bot or you might get a human.

First page of round 1 in the English S32 cup:http://www.buzzerbeater.com/country/14/cup.aspx?season=32
You had this game: (85768167) and this game (85768168) one after another...

What do you mean its not random? from your side 3 teams left 3 teams came...Whats the problem? Can you explain it?
In S39 every single human team is playing a bot. There are also 0 human teams playing on the road in the first round, that applies to England, Utopia, US, Italy...the probability of no human match-up and no human playing on the road in every single national cup is astronomically low.

Here you want to say that the cup draw is not fair but also you said it isnt random...Make a decision
nobody is complaining about the cup being unfair. If you could understand English, you'd realise I just said that the guys who took over from a bot in Utopia after the draw was made are unlucky, because they all end up with a human match up (in the example I gave a D1 team of all people), playing on the road, while everyone else is playing a bot at home

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Date: 6/21/2017 7:06:43 PM
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Now this season everyone is facing bots in the first round. This is probably because of a new feature that secures that bot teams are eliminated as fast as possible by making sure that bots only face humans (not 'bot vs bot' games).


I dont know how he concluded that but our cup is full bot vs bot and also bot vs human
If they would change something we will know it but i dont see any difference

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Date: 6/21/2017 7:11:30 PM
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Of course there will be bot vs bot games as long as the number of bot teams in the cup is bigger than the number of human teams. BUT as soon as the human teams outnumber the bot teams you will no longer see bot vs bot games.

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Date: 6/21/2017 7:17:37 PM
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i dont see any difference
The logical conclusion is that you are blind:
Greece s38: round 1...http://www.buzzerbeater.com/country/12/cup.aspx?season=38
Can you see the human vs human match-ups (ranked team vs ranked team)? Do you see human teams playing on the road?

Now, Greece s39: round 1...http://www.buzzerbeater.com/country/12/cup.aspx?season=39 Can you see no human vs human match-ups? Can you see every single human team playing at home against a bot?

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Date: 6/21/2017 7:27:58 PM
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So what if the first pages are bot vs human? ..did you see from the middle and after? all bot vs bot
The only difference i see that in s38 are mixed the pages and in s39 in a row
Maybe yes something they changed but learn to make a dialogue

PS Be quite carefully in your expressions!!!


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Date: 6/21/2017 7:33:20 PM
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/facepalm

It's ok if you want to argue this is not a bug and show us why, but I think what you are doing is this:
Arguments for the sake of arguing and long meaningless discussions, non-related or over a staff decision or action are not allowed in this forum.

It is blatantly obvious this season's draw is different from every previous one. If it's intended, it will be explained in the News post, if it's unintended then it's a Bug. If it's not a bug and it's unintended then we have just witnessed a miracle, an event with a 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of happening.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 6/21/2017 7:38:59 PM