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291117.1
Date: 12/29/2017 7:38:24 AM
Caerbannog Bunnies
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I have a 20 year old 7'1" PF who has had just a disastrous season of training. This season, there have been 9 inside-focused trainings and 4 outside-focused trainings. So far, he has 4 pops at inside skills and 2 pops at outside skills. Theoretically, he was progressing fine until 5 weeks ago, when he just stopped popping. He has regularly hit 48+ training minutes, so that is not the problem. His potential is Allstar level and I have an Allstar player on my roster with many more skill points, so he has not hit his ceiling. I have a 23 year old 6'8" SF who has popped 5 times over that same period, but with 3 fewer weeks of training. I also have a 19 year old 6'9" PF who has popped 11 times over that same period. How is my 20 year old not popping anymore?

One of my favorite aspects of this game is the fact that I can train my players to become beasts. These past few weeks, I have felt the joy and anticipation of Friday mornings become a chore as I fear opening up the training report seeing that yet again, my 20 year old PF has not popped. It is frustrating and infuriating. Can someone please let me know why he has not popped or if he is ever going to pop again? I cannot tell you how pissed off this makes me.

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291117.3 in reply to 291117.1
Date: 12/29/2017 9:06:17 AM
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His potential is only allstar, and he might be capped. You might want to buy a trainee who has superstar or better potential next time :/

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291117.4 in reply to 291117.3
Date: 12/29/2017 9:15:33 AM
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At 20 years old, he should not be capped. I have another Allstar player with double the salary and almost 20 more total skill points, so that is not a factor. I have a Star player with more salary and total skill points on the roster as well. It is as if he is not getting any of the training.

As stated in the past, players of any potential level should be able to train for their U21 team. By that logic, I do not need a superstar or better potential player to get pops at 20 years old.

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291117.6 in reply to 291117.4
Date: 12/29/2017 9:46:25 AM
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Some skills cost more towards both salary and skill caps.

I have a PG that has 110 TSP and is not capped but a PF/C with 92 who hasn't popped despite 1v1 training all season.

If you load up a player with skills that carry a big weight on his skills cap he'll hit that cap sooner with less TSP.

Edit: Both players in my example have Perennial All-Star potential.

Last edited by lvess at 12/29/2017 9:49:21 AM

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291117.7 in reply to 291117.5
Date: 12/29/2017 10:00:43 AM
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I have been focusing on 2 primary training skills, while mixing in a session of a secondary training skill every few weeks. In the last 5 weeks, he has trained IS-ID-PA-IS-ID in that order. I get that he did not pop in PA, as his size makes that training take some time. However, IS and ID should have popped. He began the year with 2 pops at IS with 2 trainings for that and 2 pops at ID with 3 trainings for that. Simple math tells me that he should have popped like I expected.

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291117.8 in reply to 291117.6
Date: 12/29/2017 10:03:43 AM
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My 20 year old 7'1" PF has only 81 TSP at Allstar. My Allstar PG has 96 TSP. The PF has inside skills of 12-12-11-10. None of those seem high enough to trigger a cap.

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291117.9 in reply to 291117.8
Date: 12/29/2017 10:13:42 AM
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With only All-star potential those skills absolutely can trigger his cap.

If you aren't using it already, please check out (http://www.buzzer-manager.com). You can get a good idea of exactly how close he is through there.

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291117.11 in reply to 291117.7
Date: 12/29/2017 11:08:17 AM
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Considering the trainings you gave, he might have been low in ID and IS and will very likely pop next ID/ IS training provided he isnt capped.

If you change trainings you cant expect caps every week or two (and even if you dont that is often)