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301526.1
Date: 10/19/2019 2:56:59 AM
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Hi everyone,
I am relatively new to the game. So far I trained some PG and SG, which I sold this season.
Now I would like to reboot my team and build a squad starting from 18YO with high potential. My budget is 14KK.
Can you give me advices on what type trainees should I buy? I was thinking to train 6 players with MVP potential or above.
Also what about the trainer? So far I used the advanced one, but perhaps I need an upgrade.
In regard to skills, what should I prioritise?
Thanks ,
A.

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301526.2 in reply to 301526.1
Date: 10/22/2019 2:48:14 AM
Tampines Fusion
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First of all, you can't train 6 players at full efficiency.

Getting 4 would be optimum at best, but that's also only for phase 1 where you do One on One forwards. After that 3 is the max, and 2 is optimum. Meaning you sell off the other 2 players.

For trainer, you would at least need a level 5 or 6 one. Don't go for high salary ones unless you have a lot of money in the bank to cushion your salary. My crazy hypothesis is that if you get a level 7 trainer who's salary is almost 100k for the price of 1k, it would take 9 weeks of training before breaking even with a low salary level 7 trainer (iirc they usually cost 1m+?). Not a long term solution tho.

As for training, if it's guards, I always start with One on One forwards, until DR and HA reaches 12, then proceed with OD til 12, and then PA or JS/JR depending on what I'm building.

Always go for single position training.

From: Ob1

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301526.3 in reply to 301526.1
Date: 10/25/2019 1:09:34 AM
O-Beshimi
III.4
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Well first of all, you might want to look first from your own draft picks after this season, investing 10k for 2 scouting points per week. 50 TSP (total skill points) at 18 yrs of age is pretty good to start with, higher is obviously better. If you don't have scouting points your next best bet is to look for players in your own country who fit all the boxes. Training home grown players gives an additional boost in merchandising income versus foreign trainees. However, if you cant find any, then by all means wait a few days after the draft and look for good foreign trainees.

You have the right idea in potential but 6 trainees is too much. You might want to consider getting 2 with high potential and the remaining 3 could have all star potential and up. The 2 high potential trainees become long term trainees while the other 3 you can resell in the transfer list for profit when their skills are much better or keep them as your backups. At 2 position training the max is 5 trainees because it is almost impossible to give everyone 48 minutes in a week. Read up on training threads. Ideally, you dont want to have multiple trainees with different skill sets but similar players. Advanced trainer with a complimentary youth trainer is fine. Youth trainers are not that expensive so dont hesitate to get one if you are training 5 18 yr old players.

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301526.5 in reply to 301526.2
Date: 10/25/2019 2:36:25 PM
Telecasters
III.9
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Gonna go ahead and disagree on the L5 trainer, I would say an L5 is best for teams that can afford it. The difference before L4 and L5 is fairly slim and insignificant unless you are training a U21 or NT level player. And the cost difference between an L4 and L5 is quite large.

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301526.6 in reply to 301526.5
Date: 10/27/2019 4:04:00 AM
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Thank you very much for the help.
What I do not understand is why can't I train 6 players.
In the past seasons I have been training SG and PG.
I had three different combination and each player was playing 48 minutes a week. Maybe I am missing something
I would like to restard training a SF, a PF and a Center.
Do you think it would be possible to train these three roles together?
Thanks again!

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301526.7 in reply to 301526.6
Date: 10/27/2019 8:25:47 PM
Laguna Buko Mixers
II.1
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Laguna Bay Mantarays
In theory, you can train 6 players for 2-position training.
But you should always consider the injuries (only minimal) and foul-outs (this one is a major factor). So, the safest bet is just 4 trainees for 2-position training.

About the 3-position training (C/PF/SF), though it's available, I recommend not doing it because it trains the slowest. Just stick with your 2-position training, heck even better if you do 1-position as mentioned in one of the replies above.

Last edited by Leo (Pilipinas U21 Coach) at 10/28/2019 3:41:05 AM

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301526.8 in reply to 301526.6
Date: 10/28/2019 2:10:19 AM
O-Beshimi
III.4
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Trainee 1 and 2 will play first game of the week. (2 x 48)

Trainee 3 and 4 will play second game of the week. (2 x 48)

Trainee 5 and 6 will play scrimmage or cup (2 x 48)

There are only 3 games a week that count in actual training minutes. If no foul outs, no substitutions, no injuries great. 6 trainees will get maximum training minutes. Not realistic though, overtime games are rare for the extra minutes and most often than not players get substituted in blowouts. 5 trainees are easier to manage. Not to mention gameshape should be better with some players getting more than 48. I find it hard to believe you can get 6 trainees 48 minutes a week consistently. The math doesn't add up.

From: 0verW1ng

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301526.9 in reply to 301526.8
Date: 10/28/2019 4:38:24 AM
BC "EDI"
LBBL
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Actually a great training facility
I've been trying 6 players training this season and I have to say - stick with 4/5. Random subs and foulouts at the end of the game ruins the trainings. My drafted 18yo got 3 skill pops in almost full season because of this..

From: Alucard679

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301526.10 in reply to 301526.8
Date: 10/28/2019 8:53:05 AM
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I believe you, even though for a couple of seasons I did train 6 players consistebtly. When I started playing this game I was advided to select only 7 players for match day and tell the coach to strictly adhere to the deep chart. Never one of my trainees was substituted even though I remembered they fouled out a couple of times. One good thing of playing in III Australian league is that there are many BOTS and weak players do not commit mant dauls.

Anyway, I would like to train a center, a power forward and a small forward and keep them for a long time. What are the skills that in your opinion I should focus on? I guess inside defence, outside defence, rebounding, block shots and inside shots. What would you suggest?

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301526.11 in reply to 301526.10
Date: 10/28/2019 9:39:24 AM
Laguna Buko Mixers
II.1
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7 players.... so, how's the "Game Shape" of all your non-trainees? :)

Anyways, I think even if I say that 3-position training isn't recommended because of very slow training rate, you'd still insist on doing it, am I right?

And since you can "consistently" train 6 players for 2-pos training, are you planning on training 9 players for the 3-pos training?

Last edited by Leo (Pilipinas U21 Coach) at 10/28/2019 9:53:15 AM